Sergio Busquets
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Pathetic.
You miserable lot have zero respect for the legends of this club. Busi might not be the greatest midfielder in the world anymore, but get a fucking grip.
But what else should I come to respect from a spoiled brat that loves a good moan and has a profile picture depicting the manager of "his" club as a Proboscis monkey of all creatures.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
That quote fits perfectly Suarez and Busquets.
Cule4life
The Culest
And what respect does the "legend" Busquets have for the club when he's so arrogant to think he can still be a starter and supports a manager who will never bench him? No legend gets an unlimited pass for being shit and refusing to step aside for youth
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
I'd rather be a "spoilt brat" than a deluded moron like you. Wouldn't be surprised if you think Valgreen is the GOAT manager, we actually play good football and the CL losses are completely on the players.
Valgreen is a monkey of a "manager" and it's my way of depicting that. If you don't like it, i'll give you one guess for how many fucks i give about that.
You should go to the barca subreddit. That place is infested with holier than thou pricks like you. There you can pretend everything is hunky dory and Barca is still a European powerhouse.
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Potroh
New member
Unfortunately there are tens of thousands of morons like that, thinking the same.
They are the ones who only see the players play, so 'obviously' they are to blame (like it happened at Camp Nou) and they also gather with their limited brains stuff like "playing xy in place of YZ" is the coach's only task.
No understanding whatsoever...
What complete rubbish.
There are many valid criticisms to be made of Valverde and the current power structure at the club, but branding everyone that doesn't think the club is in crisis and aren't supreme reactionary plastics as "Valverde apologists" is just plain disingenuous.
In a week's time we will have won 4 domestic doubles in 5 years in a top 2 league in the world. We have also won 8 of the last 11 league titles. The current squad is on their last legs, but they still have a bit more to give and after restocking this summer we will be poised to make another deep run in the Champions League.
But let's throw it all away and hand the keys to a 60 year old Setién that hasn't won a single trophy in his career or flavour of the month Ten Hag who doesn't speak a lick of Spanish and bottled a 3-0 lead himself just weeks ago.
The revolution will soon come, but when it does you same folk crying out for it now will be yearning for the greener pastures of these Valverde years.
Potroh
New member
Yes, for sure Valverde will enter the club's almanac as being the savior of football in the late 2010's...
I suppose you rarely watch Barca games with your eyes open (even the ones won by 3 goals) but if you did, you should see that the quality of play is dramatically decreasing. But if you don't watch those games, or simply care for 'domestic doubles' - literally won by Messi - you could easily see that, even without knowing a bite about this game.
But your affinity to Valverde is quite understandable, because he is indeed the coach who never worked with world-class players, never won anything, never ever trained anyone else but mediocre players, so obviously he is the one meant to be wed to Barca...
After Neymar left us and we got battered by Madrid in the '17 Supercup Barca fans were talking about the end of an era and how the team was supposedly finished.
Fast forward almost two years and two domestic doubles later under Valverde and it's all because of Messi and Valverde deserves no credit. Funny how that works.
The quality of our play is dramatically decreasing because the levels and motivation of our core players is doing the same. These players have won everything there is to win in football, have massively helped boost the Barca brand worldwide and have been the faces of the club for the better part of a decade. They have been starters through multiple regime changes in the board, managerial changes and were the pillars of club through every high and low.
No manager is going to come in and throw these seniors to the curb unless they themselves decide to step aside. Change will come soon as these players will all be gone within 3-5 years, but until then any manager whether it be Valverde or someone else is going to have to have them in their plans.
So keeping that in mind Valverde has done a magnificent job stabilizing the club in a time of volatility and exploiting the best player in history to yield an abundance of domestic titles. The time has passed for this team in Europe. They just simply cannot handle high tempo away matches anymore. That isn't Valverde's fault.
Potroh
New member
Okay...
When Neymar left, the Barca 'system' had already been stagnant for a year or so. The MSN scored a lot of goals, but that was it. Though Iniesta was rapidly ageing, but the midfield was still sort of good and good enough to play an attacking type of game, where the defense was quite bad, but the MSN solely compensated for that.
That is why Enrique left, because he was wise enough to realize those tendencies.
You mention doubles, trophies, but those are simply results, that have little to do with the actual quality of play or style.
It's not really ' funny' how it works, it's rather very sad.
Barca has and had quite a few world-class individual players, who could easily win games and that works like a force of inertia. The show goes on by itself...
Regardless who the coach is, what system he imagines, those talents are capable of dragging along the team and results as well.
Valverde deserves little to no credit, because although he knew changes are inevitable, but he saw the direction towards a certain regressive path, that is actually alien to any Barca tradition or state of the art attacking game-approach. He wanted a much more defensive team, with 4-4-2 and did not realize that it simply won't work here.
Barca is not a mid-table Liga team, but he formed the TEAM as if it was one.
A dull, slow, sometimes good, sometimes bad team, that only cares for acceptable results and nothing more.
Last year Suarez was still himself, Messi did his wonders. That was domestically enough.
But this season Valverde was simply saved due to the flounder of both Madrid's teams, Messi's constant form and last but not least, due to the form and development of Ter Stegen.
With a 2016-2017 Ter Stegen, a Pique in worse form, without a Dembele who won quite a few games, and without a Messiah Messi, this team could have easily been ranked 3rd or 5th in LaLiga.
No sane manager inherits the 'untouchable' status of those players.
They could play, but only if their performances dictate that merit.
Pique is of the same age as Suarez, but there is a huge difference between the decline of them. If they show no signs of rapid declination, why not play them? But if the quality fall is even obvious in the kinder-garden, some gradual changes are inevitable.
With Valverde's mediocrity, away games are played the exact same, apart from using a pseudo 4-4-2. No 'tactics' whatsoever.
Those games are rarely won because he is "happy" with 0:0, with very lucky wins, soulless performances, etc. The "we had the ball" mentality.
Otherwise everything is Valverde's fault, simply because the coach has to take responsibility for both results and the game-play.
It was his task to mentally prepare the team for the Anfield game, which he failed to even try, the 4th goal clearly shows that.
But no wonder if Valverdes sour-cucumber face, his pre-prepared dull sentences and platitude words are unable to enthuse any players. A very different type of coach would be needed for that...
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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Serious question, why do you feel the need to swear/insult people who have a differing opinion than you?
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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Another insult. I already explained that was a joke, which is obvious to anybody who isn't permanently defensive/paranoid about random posters on a online forum. I've never been on reddit. Answer the question - why do you feel the need to swear/insult people who have a differing opinion than you?
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