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    Quote Originally Posted by henias View Post
    He cost us the game at the Supercopa, poor positioning, poor defensive timing, going too much forward yet unable to put in effective crosses. Though he's no natural winger, he still a pretty decent wide option without Dembele but other than that, he should never be allowed anywhere near the defence area.
    He didn't cost us the game. The whole Real Madrid team looked super good while we were a mess after the Neymar debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albo View Post
    He didn't cost us the game. The whole Real Madrid team looked super good while we were a mess after the Neymar debacle.
    Yes he did. Him and Rakitic were major problems defensively and it was why our right side were so exposed when they counter attacked.

    And of course our attack was poor with Deulofeu

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    Quote Originally Posted by henias View Post
    Yes he did. Him and Rakitic were major problems defensively and it was why our right side were so exposed when they counter attacked.
    Come on. Watch the games again, maybe we could have got a hard fought draw but that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albo View Post
    Come on. Watch the games again, maybe we could have got a hard fought draw but that's it.
    That still doesnt change the fact that Vidal was one of the worst on the pitch, besides Deulofeu, Pique and Rakitic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henias View Post
    That still doesnt change the fact that Vidal was one of the worst on the pitch, besides Deulofeu, Pique and Rakitic.
    No it doesn't but he didn't cost us the game by himself. Real Madrid were just much better and considering the circumstances it's no wonder.

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    People still giving a sh** about meaningless preseason games.

    We should sell Deulofeu and keep Vidal until summer. Loaning him doesn't make sense unless there is a loan fee and an obligatory for Roma to buy him in summer for 15-20M. But Monchi won't agree to those conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    People still giving a sh** about meaningless preseason games.

    We should sell Deulofeu and keep Vidal until summer. Loaning him doesn't make sense unless there is a loan fee and an obligatory for Roma to buy him in summer for 15-20M. But Monchi won't agree to those conditions.
    Why keep the inferior player?
    Vidal has been bad for 2 years, 28 going 29 and his relation with coaches left a lot to be desired, the sooner you can get rid of him the better. He is the one who should go first, him staying was wrong in 1st place
    Gerard at least was useful player in many games and EV got the best out of him in that regard, sure he can be very frustrating but this is Vidal we are talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    Why keep the inferior player?
    Vidal has been bad for 2 years, 28 going 29 and his relation with coaches left a lot to be desired, the sooner you can get rid of him the better. He is the one who should go first, him staying was wrong in 1st place
    Gerard at least was useful player in many games and EV got the best out of him in that regard, sure he can be very frustrating but this is Vidal we are talking about
    Where are you getting this from? It's true he had problems with Lucho (but he's not the only player so is that only his fault?) but he then worked hard enough to convince Lucho to give him a second chance. I don't think he has bad relationship with Valverde, it's just that EV has quickly seen that Vidal is not RB but he could still be useful as winger.

    For me Vidal is a superior player to Deulofeu. I don't care too much about their longterm potential because none of them should be here anymore next season but for the rest of this season I'd rather keep Aleix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    Where are you getting this from? It's true he had problems with Lucho (but he's not the only player so is that only his fault?) but he then worked hard enough to convince Lucho to give him a second chance. I don't think he has bad relationship with Valverde, it's just that EV has quickly seen that Vidal is not RB but he could still be useful as winger.

    For me Vidal is a superior player to Deulofeu. I don't care too much about their longterm potential because none of them should be here anymore next season but for the rest of this season I'd rather keep Aleix.
    He fell clearly out of 2 coaches early, EV still gives him chances but he is doing the same with every player not named Arda, ok may be I am exaggerating a bit in that regard
    I didn't talk about their long term potential, but age is factor when you sell a player, when you have someone aged 28-29 you have smaller room of getting money for him and usually he is less patient with playing time
    Gerard fought hard to get the chance to play here, and he will probably be fine with completing the season and then moving out. can't say same thing about Vidal specially when his agent talks about moving out already

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    He fell clearly out of 2 coaches early, EV still gives him chances but he is doing the same with every player not named Arda, ok may be I am exaggerating a bit in that regard
    I didn't talk about their long term potential, but age is factor when you sell a player, when you have someone aged 28-29 you have smaller room of getting money for him and usually he is less patient with playing time
    Gerard fought hard to get the chance to play here, and he will probably be fine with completing the season and then moving out. can't say same thing about Vidal specially when his agent talks about moving out already
    Gerard is younger but his contract expires in 2019 while Vidal is under contract until 2020 so we actually have less time to sell Deulofeu and to be fair, we won't get much for anyone of them. With Gerard clearly way down in Valverde's pecking order at winger (now also with Dembele and Rafinha returning) I don't see him getting much playing time in second half of the season. That's why I'd sell him for what we can get now with Inter apparently interested before his value will go even further down.

    I'm not against selling Vidal if we can get around 15M for him (we won't), but there were only rumours about loaning him which don't make much sense as I think he can still be useful squad player. He's also perfectly fine with his role in the team so there won't be any problems because of less playing time. So unless we would loan him with an obligation (not an option that then will never be used) to buy in summer I'd prefer to keep him over Deulofeu.

    Dembele and Rafinha are both coming back from longterm injuries and will be slowly integrated back so he could play a lot especially in Copa games in January. And with our good lead in La Liga he could also be used in easier home league games if/when Valverde will rest starters before important CL fixtures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi983 View Post
    Gerard is younger but his contract expires in 2019 while Vidal is under contract until 2020 so we actually have less time to sell Deulofeu and to be fair, we won't get much for anyone of them. With Gerard clearly way down in Valverde's pecking order at winger (now also with Dembele and Rafinha returning) I don't see him getting much playing time in second half of the season. That's why I'd sell him for what we can get now with Inter apparently interested before his value will go even further down.

    I'm not against selling Vidal if we can get around 15M for him (we won't), but there were only rumours about loaning him which don't make much sense as I think he can still be useful squad player. He's also perfectly fine with his role in the team so there won't be any problems because of less playing time. So unless we would loan him with an obligation (not an option that then will never be used) to buy in summer I'd prefer to keep him over Deulofeu.

    Dembele and Rafinha are both coming back from longterm injuries and will be slowly integrated back so he could play a lot especially in Copa games in January. And with our good lead in La Liga he could also be used in easier home league games if/when Valverde will rest starters before important CL fixtures.
    I disagree strongly with the notion that Vidal could be a useful squad player for us. He's a complete nightmare in defense, and every argument used for why Deulofeu wouldn't be needed at RW applies just as much if not more to Vidal, who doesn't even provide the crossing Deulofeu can. Comparing how much we could make for selling either one is essentially comparing nickels to pennies but Vidal for me is the worst player on the team next to Arda and after losing favor with two coaches in a row it's clear he has nothing to offer us, especially with Dembele and Rafinha returning from injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God Serena View Post
    but Vidal for me is the worst player on the team next to Arda and after losing favor with two coaches in a row it's clear he has nothing to offer us, especially with Dembele and Rafinha returning from injury.
    I do agree with you, with the slightest difference that for me Vidal was still better compared to Gomes.

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    Just because you're fast and can't defend doesn't make you a winger

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    Please sell! He is just terrible! He sucks in every position on the field!

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    Shite.