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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Luftstalag14
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Really like Leipzig, young, full of energy, aggressive, ambitious, playing as a team.
Let's see if Leipzig will be able to fend off Bayern and foreign clubs for their talent and build a long term project to pose challenges to Bayern in Bundesliga.
Let's see if Leipzig will be able to fend off Bayern and foreign clubs for their talent and build a long term project to pose challenges to Bayern in Bundesliga.
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Birdy
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Compare the game we are watching now with the Sevilla - RM just before.
Day and night...
Bundesliga has improved dramatically the last 3 seasons, and now it's firmly the 2nd best league behind EPL in quality of football played.
Of course LaLiga zealots in here don't wanna hear about that, they are still stuck in 2011
Day and night...
Bundesliga has improved dramatically the last 3 seasons, and now it's firmly the 2nd best league behind EPL in quality of football played.
Of course LaLiga zealots in here don't wanna hear about that, they are still stuck in 2011
serghei
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Don't know about that. Very nice football, agreed, but all teams bar Bayern are incredibly naive and lack any pragmatism.
Let's see how Gladbach and Leipzig do in the decisive matches next week.
Yannik
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Quality among the top 9 has greatly improved over the last few years. Performances in CL/EL are consistent and great. Still no team able to challenge Bayern though.
BVB and RB are scratching top team status, but cannot keep their squads together. Italy is far closer to exciting title competitions than we are, even though they are inconsistent in European comps. Inter, AC, Atalanta, Lazio, Roma, Napoli all have a greater concentration of top players compared to Leverkusen, Gladbach, or Frankfurt.
diDi7
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Nah, it's better than before but La Liga still firmly ahead. Spanish teams have been dominating Europe. 1 or 2 setbacks mean nothing to their status IMO.
Birdy
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If by pragmatism you mean defensive-mindedness maybe, but if you mean efficiency in getting results not anymore I think.
They have reached the level where energy and attacking-minded football is coupled with good tactics.
Leipzig kicked out Tottenham last season, the German teams are topping their groups when facing Spanish and Italian sides nowadays in European competitions.
I think it will get confirmed in the knockout-out CL stages also later this season.
But knock-out competitions is not the metric as I have explained in the past. Take Leipzig or Dortmund and put them in Serie A or LaLiga, they will be title contenders.
But if they can play better without top players, isn't that in favor of them??
JamDav1982
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Spanish teams are not dominating Europe.
There has been one Spanish team in CL semi finals for the previous two seasons and it was a Barca team which received on of most humiliating defeats of all time.
Last years covid impacted season was a bit more random but prior to that English teams had in the previous two seasons won 3 of the 4 European trophies available and mad up 6 of the 8 finalists.
Look at Spanish teams this season... and again look behind EPL and by quite a bit.
La Liga has not been dominating Europe at all in past few seasons.
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Yannik
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Of course, it's compensating a lot. But we're lacking the firepower of individual class. Take Gladbach for example, all in all great players but none of them is top team material. They were able to match teams such as Inter and Madrid, but not enough to beat them. BuLi teams right now fair greatly vs teams they should beat. That's why almost all of them are 1st in their CL/EL group. We are reliably getting all the points vs teams that are either comparable or below our level, whereas Serie A teams for example constantly drop points in games they should normally win. But as soon as KO stage comes and the big boys knock we struggle to prevail over 2 rounds.
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