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    There are some who think Rossell and Bartomeu have been cooking the books and done some creative accounting to make the financial statements look better. Won't know until 2021 when a new board comes in, and that too only if the new president isn't a handpicked successor of Rosell/Bartomeu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Mars View Post
    There are some who think Rossell and Bartomeu have been cooking the books and done some creative accounting to make the financial statements look better. Won't know until 2021 when a new board comes in, and that too only if the new president isn't a handpicked successor of Rosell/Bartomeu.
    Well Barto will probably leave the club with the highest annual revenues in the world according to Deloitte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew M View Post
    Well Barto will probably leave the club with the highest annual revenues in the world according to Deloitte
    Doesn't Barca include transfer sales in their statements, compared to other clubs that don't? Plus wages as a percentage of revenue is way higher than any other club.

    The closest comparable to Barca is Real Madrid. And they have a better wage structure and haven't been spending wild money every summer.
    Barca's net spend has been considerably higher than Madrid's the past 4-5 years too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor Mars View Post
    Doesn't Barca include transfer sales in their statements, compared to other clubs that don't? Plus wages as a percentage of revenue is way higher than any other club.

    The closest comparable to Barca is Real Madrid. And they have a better wage structure and haven't been spending wild money every summer.
    Barca's net spend has been considerably higher than Madrid's the past 4-5 years too.
    When Deloitte publish their annual football money league in a couple weeks, this will be the top 4 excluding player sales:

    Barca: €852

    Real Madrid: €757

    Man Utd: €732

    Bayern: €650

    Madrid will get their new 100 mill adidas deal from 2020, but even that won't close the gap by 2021.

    Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

    Juve: 71%

    Atletico: 70%

    Roma: 64%

    PSG: 61%

    Barca: 59%

    Liverpool: 58%

    Arsenal: 57%

    Inter: 56%

    Chelsea: 54%

    Dortmund: 54%

    Man Utd: 53%

    Man City: 52%

    Bayern: 48%

    Real Madrid 48%

    Spurs 39%

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    I mostly went off the KPMG report from last year (don't think they have released one for 2020 yet) regarding the staff wages to turnover ratio which put Barca at 81%. It puts Real Madrid ahead on operating revenues as well.

    https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg...lite-2019a.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew M View Post
    When Deloitte publish their annual football money league in a couple weeks, this will be the top 4 excluding player sales:

    Barca: 852

    Real Madrid: 757

    Man Utd: 732

    Bayern: 650

    Madrid will get their new 100 mill adidas deal from 2020, but even that won't close the gap by 2021.

    Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

    Juve: 71%

    Atletico: 70%

    Roma: 64%

    PSG: 61%

    Barca: 59%

    Liverpool: 58%

    Arsenal: 57%

    Inter: 56%

    Chelsea: 54%

    Dortmund: 54%

    Man Utd: 53%

    Man City: 52%

    Bayern: 48%

    Real Madrid 48%

    Spurs 39%
    Does look impressive. Then again for a long time I read Barca wages where 70-80 % (but that maybe includes sign-on bonuses and normal bonuses - which we use fairly often compared to other clubs)??

    Didn't we even take a 35m loan to fund transfers? And what about or debt. When the board took over, I often read reports about how we where decreasing our debt and 4-5 years later I read its 800m euro? And not to forget the new stadium which also will be costly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havesaks View Post
    Does look impressive. Then again for a long time I read Barca wages where 70-80 % (but that maybe includes sign-on bonuses and normal bonuses - which we use fairly often compared to other clubs)??

    Didn't we even take a 35m loan to fund transfers? And what about or debt. When the board took over, I often read reports about how we where decreasing our debt and 4-5 years later I read its 800m euro? And not to forget the new stadium which also will be costly
    I believe in 2010 the net debt was 442 million euros. According to the club, the current net debt is 217 million as of June 2019. The current board is actually pretty good with the finances. It's the sporting planning which leaves a lot to be desired.

    Our annual wage bill is 501 million, Madrid's is 362 million. But Messi is a big factor in that

    To compare, Real Madrid actually have zero net debt which is very impressive. But they have taken out that loan for the stadium.....

    Perhaps the figures are manipulated to look good with debt etc, but that's what they say.

    Our EBIDTA is 72 million

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    Replacing a yes man with another yes man, great job Barto!
    Club de amigos must be happy with this decision.

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    Framing idiot this should have been done

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    At last you did something right for the club

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    He acknowledged that most fans and some board members wanted Valverde out during the summer during the Setien presentation...

    He kept him anyway.
    The suffering is over.

    Onwards and forwards.

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    If Valverde had decency, as amigos claimed he had, he would have offered his resignation last summer and acknowledged he made Barca play worst football in decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ergio_Busquets View Post
    Replacing a yes man with another yes man, great job Barto!
    Club de amigos must be happy with this decision.
    The irony of your statement is that he was fired from Betis because he wasn't a yes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    The irony of your statement is that he was fired from Betis because he wasn't a yes man.
    What is the story with him and Betis? Why was let go then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    What is the story with him and Betis? Why was let go then?
    Because he wanted the club to buy a new CF, they were creating a shitload of chances but there was no one good to finish them, if he had Iglesias and Fekir, the team Betis has now, he'd probably take Betis to the CL back then.