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    People should be F* PROUD one Barcelona player has reached so high...









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    Saving a winning penalty for the final?


    There are actually THREE Barça players in the final and I'm happy for all of them but obviously Rakitić deserves a lot more respect than he's often given by his own (especially Barça but he was also criticised by Croatia fans a lot in the past) fans. Modrić gets more attention (and deservedly so) but Raki is a true gladiator/workhorse for both his club and NT and coaches know his importance for the team. He has played over 70 games and 5.000 minutes this season which is crazy. Hopefully with Arthur here we'll be able to give him more rest next season or he'll break down sooner or later.

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    Click at 4:55, Rio Ferdinand and Alan Shearer talk about experience and what exactly Modric and Rakitic did in the 2nd half:


    My point is: this if for guys who dream that we could play Arthur and De Jong in a few years as a midfield duo in a CL.
    One guy with 0 matches in Europe.
    The other guy with 40 senior matches in total, and zero big CL matches.

    I mean, we could play them as starters in 2-3 years, but don't expect titles then until they earn an insane experience in big matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Click at 4:55, Rio Ferdinand and Alan Shearer talk about experience and what exactly Modric and Rakitic did in the 2nd half:


    My point is: this if for guys who dream that we could play Arthur and De Jong in a few years as a midfield duo in a CL.
    One guy with 0 matches in Europe.
    The other guy with 40 senior matches in total, and zero big CL matches.

    I mean, we could play them as starters in 2-3 years, but don't expect titles then until they earn an insane experience in big matches.
    Experience is overrated and is such a cliche

    There's only one way for good young players to get experience.

    What he's really talking about isn't experience, its quality, and England didn't have enough of that while Croatia did.
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    Experience is overrated and is such a cliche
    It s not if you want to win. Othervise youth would dominate on regular basis. It doesn t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BADGERBHOY View Post
    Experience is overrated and is such a cliche

    There's only one way for good young players to get experience.

    What he's really talking about isn't experience, its quality, and England didn't have enough of that while Croatia did.
    Croatia had Modric and Rakitic on every tournament since 2008'.
    And majority of time, Croatia were losing in a naive manner, even though they were better.
    They didn't know how to get a few extra inches/percentages of performance in key moments.

    Please, watch these highligts:
    You have a 23 years old Modric and a 20 years old Rakitic as Croatia's midfield duo in 1/4s of Euros 2008 vs Turkey.
    Look at how the extra time will end, in such a naive way:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXq13PjO-FQ

    Look at this, BOTH young Modric and Rakitic missed the whole goal in a penalty shootout...

    And then, you have matches, like against Portugal in 2016, more chances, dominating but unable to kill the match and then being defeated in the 117th minute:


    So, Croatia went from a team who is usually better BUT can't win matches to a team which is turning every match from 0:1 into their favor, scoring in extra times, winning on penalties and everything.
    Do you think that 23&20 years old Modric&Rakitic would have been able to turn matches from 0:1 to 2:1 and score crucial extra time and penalty kick goals?

    I don't think so.

    Modric and Rakitic needed to lose 10s of key matches before they have reached a current mental strength/experience level.
    Their technique was always there, but experience and mental strenght wasn't.

    1. technique is a skill
    2. mental strength is a skill
    3. experience is a skill
    4. IQ is a skill
    5. physique is a skill

    On our forum, we usually rate players only whether they have a good technique/passing and nothing more.
    We don't look too much at IQ, mental strength, experience or physique.
    As long as he knows how to pass and has silky touches, he "should be fine".
    Well, those days are over.
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    Rakitic is criminally underrated this world cup. Guy has sacrificed himself for the team. Everyone talks like modric is dragging them to final but Rakitic has been immense for Croatia. Does lot of dirty work. Hope he scores the winner if Croatia wins. A banger if possible. If we rotate him enough he will have even bigger impact for Barca. He plays way too many matches and he has to cover lot more ground with Messi as RW. He needs more rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarium View Post
    Rakitic is criminally underrated this world cup. Guy has sacrificed himself for the team. Everyone talks like modric is dragging them to final but Rakitic has been immense for Croatia. Does lot of dirty work. Hope he scores the winner if Croatia wins. A banger if possible. If we rotate him enough he will have even bigger impact for Barca. He plays way too many matches and he has to cover lot more ground with Messi as RW. He needs more rest.
    90% of people don´t appreciate and see what he brings to the team and they won´t until he is gone. And when the day comes and some flashy superskilled brazilian named Rocketinho who playes zero defense comes and replaces him THEN it strikes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarium View Post
    Rakitic is criminally underrated this world cup. Guy has sacrificed himself for the team. Everyone talks like modric is dragging them to final but Rakitic has been immense for Croatia. Does lot of dirty work. Hope he scores the winner if Croatia wins. A banger if possible. If we rotate him enough he will have even bigger impact for Barca. He plays way too many matches and he has to cover lot more ground with Messi as RW. He needs more rest.
    He didn't have to cover ground for Messi last season. He basically played as a DM.

    He plays a shitload of games though that's true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarium View Post
    Rakitic is criminally underrated this world cup. Guy has sacrificed himself for the team. Everyone talks like modric is dragging them to final but Rakitic has been immense for Croatia. Does lot of dirty work. Hope he scores the winner if Croatia wins. A banger if possible. If we rotate him enough he will have even bigger impact for Barca. He plays way too many matches and he has to cover lot more ground with Messi as RW. He needs more rest.
    Rakitic has been good, about as good as Modric this world cup, immense stamina to play so many games.
    I dont think he has been all that underrated this world cup or in general, its just Barca-supporters who dont particulary rate him, he is welcome to come here, if you guys dont want him anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Rakitic has been good, about as good as Modric this world cup, immense stamina to play so many games.
    I dont think he has been all that underrated this world cup or in general, its just Barca-supporters who dont particulary rate him, he is welcome to come here, if you guys dont want him anymore.
    There's just a brash, loudmouthed minority that dislike him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Rakitic has been good, about as good as Modric this world cup, immense stamina to play so many games.
    I dont think he has been all that underrated this world cup or in general, its just Barca-supporters who dont particulary rate him, he is welcome to come here, if you guys dont want him anymore.
    No need to generalize . Been a big fan of him since his first season . He has been one of our best signings in recent years along with Mats . Offloading Cesc and bringing in Raki was one of the best things our baord did in last few years apart from signing Mats and umtiti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morten View Post
    Rakitic has been good, about as good as Modric this world cup, immense stamina to play so many games.
    I dont think he has been all that underrated this world cup or in general, its just Barca-supporters who dont particulary rate him, he is welcome to come here, if you guys dont want him anymore.
    How would you lineup with Rakitić if we send him there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joan Laporta View Post
    How would you lineup with Rakitić if we send him there?
    Raki sends the Toni "The Snail" Kroos to the bench. Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMessi View Post
    Raki sends the Toni "The Snail" Kroos to the bench. Done.
    Who else but Ivan "the rabbit" Rakitić?

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