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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik View Post
    Umtiti's level dropped sharply after he began negotiating his contract. Alba's also dropped a lot since the beginning of the season. No, Suarez was definitely not better Raki.

    Busquets or Roberto, yeah, you could argue that.
    The thing is Umtiti's level dropped but before it dropped, he was performing at a world class level, some will say he was in the top 3 best defenders in the world, some will even say that he was best in the world. Rakitic never reached that kind of level at his position at Barcelona. And thatís a fact. Umtitiís level dropped but Rakiticís level never reach those highs Umtiti was performing at. It is what it is: Rakitic isnít good enough to be a starter at Barcelona. Simple as that.

    He was ok in 2014-2015 when he had Alves behind him and Messi in front of him. These 2 together are worth 4 good players, so all Rakitic had to do is defensive contribution. Now that we have just ę*normal*Ľ right-backs and wingers, Rakitic has been exposed: he isnít good enough for BarÁa as Iíve already said.

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    Rakitic has actually been one of the better performers this year. I don't understand why some people keep saying Rakitic is just some workhorse. Wow far from the truth-he has been asked to play a role for the team like many other players at Barca past and present. When he was bought from Sevilla Rakitic was playing as a number 10 for them and was their main man - he was dangerous, he dribbled, passed, great short and pinpoint long passes, crossing, set pieces -corners, free kicks -,creativity,talent and great shots, goals and assists in that role for them-that is the role he truly excelled with more freedom to express himself. Check out the year they won the UEFA cup for example when he was their main man and captain. He played fantastically in an attacking role - a creative midfield, number 10 role and I remember the pundits here in the UK gushing over him and praising him in that role for Sevilla. When he came to Barca like most players he was asked to go from being the main man at his club and the main creative man at Sevilla to playing a much more restrictive and defensive role in midfield which does not show many of his attacking qualities. All credit to him, unlike many before him he managed to change his role completely to adapt to the Barca system, changed his game to be far more defensively minded and often had to babysit Alves and others for large parts of the game in the past, while still scoring important goals. This has nothing to do with 442 - Rakitic has excelled at other systems and roles in his career and other clubs before which got him to Barca in the first place. Many other players have failed to do this at Barca coming from other clubs - failed to adapt and many other players will fail to do this in the future. Not many players have managed to completely change their game, become part of the team to fit in at Barca. So credit to Raki as I feel some are being harsh when there are many others who performed far worse this season - he has objectively been one of the better players this season. You will see in the future many players we buy will fail to adapt to the Barca system - other players that people will want to buy will fail to adapt to the system, flop totally and fail to make it here. So I feel Rakitic deserves credit as he has played many high level games for Barcelona over the years and, in a new , more defensive and less creative role than he was used to in the past. So as one of a group of players who has sacrificed himself and succeeded in becoming part of the Barca system I give Raki a big thumbs up. Yes there have been some ups and downs but that happens with all players during a long season and as stated there have been many who have performed far worse than him this season. He is still a very important player - just like the manager said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NICK View Post
    Rakitic has actually been one of the better performers this year. I don't understand why some people keep saying Rakitic is just some workhorse. Wow far from the truth-he has been asked to play a role for the team like many other players at Barca past and present. When he was bought from Sevilla Rakitic was playing as a number 10 for them and was their main man - he was dangerous, he dribbled, passed, great short and pinpoint long passes, crossing, set pieces -corners, free kicks -,creativity,talent and great shots, goals and assists in that role for them-that is the role he truly excelled with more freedom to express himself. Check out the year they won the UEFA cup for example when he was their main man and captain. He played fantastically in an attacking role - a creative midfield, number 10 role and I remember the pundits here in the UK gushing over him and praising him in that role for Sevilla. When he came to Barca like most players he was asked to go from being the main man at his club and the main creative man at Sevilla to playing a much more restrictive and defensive role in midfield which does not show many of his attacking qualities. All credit to him, unlike many before him he managed to change his role completely to adapt to the Barca system, changed his game to be far more defensively minded and often had to babysit Alves and others for large parts of the game in the past, while still scoring important goals. This has nothing to do with 442 - Rakitic has excelled at other systems and roles in his career and other clubs before which got him to Barca in the first place. Many other players have failed to do this at Barca coming from other clubs - failed to adapt and many other players will fail to do this in the future. Not many players have managed to completely change their game, become part of the team to fit in at Barca. So credit to Raki as I feel some are being harsh when there are many others who performed far worse this season - he has objectively been one of the better players this season. You will see in the future many players we buy will fail to adapt to the Barca system - other players that people will want to buy will fail to adapt to the system, flop totally and fail to make it here. So I feel Rakitic deserves credit as he has played many high level games for Barcelona over the years and, in a new , more defensive and less creative role than he was used to in the past. So as one of a group of players who has sacrificed himself and succeeded in becoming part of the Barca system I give Raki a big thumbs up. Yes there have been some ups and downs but that happens with all players during a long season and as stated there have been many who have performed far worse than him this season. He is still a very important player - just like the manager said.
    This argument again... He played as a part of a double pivot for Sevilla and on occasion as a 10. Further Sevilla donít dominate the ball like Barcelona does and as such has never had to take care of it as much. He is your archetypal box to box midfielder that does better in a more direct system which Lucho gave him in the second half of the 2014/15 season.

    He is not the type of player that is going to dominate the ball, set tempo, make himself available as a passing option and carry it forward.

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    Ambassador Rakitic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaviniesta View Post
    Ambassador Rakitic

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    Well the rumors say PSG are looking for a DM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xXKonan View Post
    Well the rumors say PSG are looking for a DM.

    They can have Paulinho for 50M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaviniesta View Post
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    Just show how little these players respect the club.

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    I doubt Puyol or Xavi would have let Neymar run away with his shit last summer.

    This team really lack a leader that will stand up against bullshit. I thought Pique might develop into a leader like them, but he's happy being the class clown so what can you do. Se Queda folks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
    I doubt Puyol or Xavi would have let Neymar run away with his shit last summer.

    This team really lack a leader that will stand up against bullshit.
    Mascherano was as big a leader as those two and was there last summer.

    Xavi and Puyol would have done what the players did and tried to persuade him to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
    I doubt Puyol or Xavi would have let Neymar run away with his shit last summer.

    This team really lack a leader that will stand up against bullshit. I thought Pique might develop into a leader like them, but he's happy being the class clown so what can you do. Se Queda folks.
    Xavi was never as good capita as Puyol was. Not even close.

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    Nick, I agree, Rak is a key player for this team. I thought he improved last season with the shift to the 4-4-2 formation. Unlike Busquets, Rak can perform the DM role while also doing some superb work going all the ways forward. He and Busquets complement each other well. Rakitic has been one of the best additions of the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilS View Post
    Nick, I agree, Rak is a key player for this team. I thought he improved last season with the shift to the 4-4-2 formation. Unlike Busquets, Rak can perform the DM role while also doing some superb work going all the ways forward. He and Busquets complement each other well. Rakitic has been one of the best additions of the last few years.
    Rakitic is only good as a starter in the 4-4-2 formation and that doesn't seem sustainable for much longer. The second we move back to a 4-3-3 or a variant of 4-3-3, he's going to get exposed again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raketa10 View Post
    Xavi was never as good capita as Puyol was. Not even close.
    I wasn't comparing them.


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    Have to be honest, our 4-4-2 is one of the weirdest I can think of. You have Raki and Busi as pivots, none of whom is fast nor particularly physical. To make it worse, there's Pique behind them who's also slow. What they do is they feel the game. It's amazing when you think about it. That said, our midfield could use some lungs, stamina and running.

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    Been the best today.

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