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    I say buy him, him + rafinha will be more than enough to make up for xavi's age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ammarfcb View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinhoR10 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumlit View Post
    I've said it countless times and been shot down here. Rakitic is a quality footballer. Very good two way player. He'd be a great addition to the team.
    I think you're definitely onto something...Seems to be no reason we should go after anyone else that would cost a fortune when he's in our backyard already and approaching the last year of his contract - despite a 40 million buyout clause...I've read Liverpool & Atletico are interested as well
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    I just think that he is just a little below the level required for us but I maybe wrong. Would like to see him at Atletico while we get Gundogan or Kroos. Would really make the league exciting
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    If he'd be cheap I'd say go for it, but with a release clause of 40M, nah. Class player, one of the best in La Liga this season. But not for that pricetag.


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    40M my ass, Sevilla would sold him for 25 straight away.
    Don't rate him as world class though

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    Obviously Gundogan and Kroos would be ahead in the list, but Rakitic is not a bad consolation price. Forget about the 40M buyout, he won't cost 40M.

    The biggest concern I got back every time I mentioned Rakitic for reinforcement, was "He's too offensive, we already have offensive midfielders". Well, Rakitic is twice the defender from the midfield position than Xavi is at this point. Rakitic is averaging 2 tackles and 2 interceptions per game. This is more defensive production than Barcelona get from Xavi and Iniesta, combined. It is also more than Jordi Alba averages for La Liga. Rakitic has also played as CDM for Sevilla on occasions. Obviously his defensive contributions are not the issue.

    People might want to look at his 79% passing success and try to raise concern. While this is a far more valid argument than the defensive one, we need to take into account that Rakitic is playing a very offensive role for Sevilla out of team necessity. Sevilla is a direct playing team, and a team that likes to defend and counter. More often than not, Rakitic is leading a 3 or 2 man counter with his passing options being low efficiency ones. He does not have the luxury of having a Barcelona system where passing options are high in efficiency and he does not have the luxury of simple passes to prop his percentage numbers up.

    Rakitic is obviously not at the talent level of Iniesta, or Xavi in his prime, and like I said, Gundogan and/or Kroos are the far better and superior choices, but he is not a slouch. He's got vision, has 16 assists this season. He's got technical talent. He can score, has 12 goals this season. And he has excellent defensive contribution. He is a good two way player, and IMHO definitely capable of contributing for Barcelona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumlit View Post
    Obviously Gundogan and Kroos would be ahead in the list, but Rakitic is not a bad consolation price. Forget about the 40M buyout, he won't cost 40M.

    The biggest concern I got back every time I mentioned Rakitic for reinforcement, was "He's too offensive, we already have offensive midfielders". Well, Rakitic is twice the defender from the midfield position than Xavi is at this point. Rakitic is averaging 2 tackles and 2 interceptions per game. This is more defensive production than Barcelona get from Xavi and Iniesta, combined. It is also more than Jordi Alba averages for La Liga. Rakitic has also played as CDM for Sevilla on occasions. Obviously his defensive contributions are not the issue.

    People might want to look at his 79% passing success and try to raise concern. While this is a far more valid argument than the defensive one, we need to take into account that Rakitic is playing a very offensive role for Sevilla out of team necessity. Sevilla is a direct playing team, and a team that likes to defend and counter. More often than not, Rakitic is leading a 3 or 2 man counter with his passing options being low efficiency ones. He does not have the luxury of having a Barcelona system where passing options are high in efficiency and he does not have the luxury of simple passes to prop his percentage numbers up.

    Rakitic is obviously not at the talent level of Iniesta, or Xavi in his prime, and like I said, Gundogan and/or Kroos are the far better and superior choices, but he is not a slouch. He's got vision, has 16 assists this season. He's got technical talent. He can score, has 12 goals this season. And he has excellent defensive contribution. He is a good two way player, and IMHO definitely capable of contributing for Barcelona.
    +1 always liked Rakitic he was the reason I saw Sevilla's matches he might be more attack minded but controls the game well enough

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    You're right Sumlit but you also take into account that passing statistics like that for a counter attacking team will always look different than a possession one, nevermind a passing one with Barcelona quality talent

    GŁndoğan, if he were going to be healthy, and that's a major if, he's going to come with a hefty pricetag and no shortage of suitors...Unless Barcelona is his express desire, it'll sidetrack the negotiating team that rarely gets deals done quickly...Kroos is a luxury that I doubt we'll spring for or be willing to battle for as again, suitors galore...Ivan ticks a lot of the boxes but I wonder what his aspirations are - I keep reading how happy he is in Sevilla...Plus, perhaps he has some ambition to play somewhere in particular
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    You know who else is a good midfielder? Rafinha!

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    Bought him for 1200 in Fifa after I saw how he destroyed Real...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCBarca View Post
    You're right Sumlit but you also take into account that passing statistics like that for a counter attacking team will always look different than a possession one, nevermind a passing one with Barcelona quality talent

    GŁndoğan, if he were going to be healthy, and that's a major if, he's going to come with a hefty pricetag and no shortage of suitors...Unless Barcelona is his express desire, it'll sidetrack the negotiating team that rarely gets deals done quickly...Kroos is a luxury that I doubt we'll spring for or be willing to battle for as again, suitors galore...Ivan ticks a lot of the boxes but I wonder what his aspirations are - I keep reading how happy he is in Sevilla...Plus, perhaps he has some ambition to play somewhere in particular
    You raise a good point. We fans always talk about this player or other, and never take into account the willingness of the player to leave his familiar environments.

    However, I'll say this, Rakitic has not renewed his contract with Sevilla yet. Also, this is a World Cup year, and Rakitic will show the world his wears in the big stage. The interest for him will be real this summer. If he ever thought about moving to a better team, this would be the summer to do so.

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    Gundogans contract expires in 2015 and he is not signing a new one. We can have him for 25m if we talk with him and negotiate with the club
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