Antonio Sanabria

FCBarca said:

Sport saying the player & his agent rejected the final offer from Zubi & the club so he will be sold in the winter market...Several teams in line to bid for him so perhaps Zubi will negotiate a nice fee

Shame really, he's a helluva striker

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Shame, but what to do? Even though Barça needs a striker now, and tata could try him...

Sounds like the club didn't want to alter the fee structure to accomodate Sanabria which you can't really fault the club for...Although the gems in the cantera have always had some rules apply differently to them...Feels like this is one of those cases where you have to make some exceptions...Of course, that's a slippery slope as it can have a domino effect

It's clear the club valued him but they said similar about Thiago too...It's a big blow nevertheless

Flavia said:

Shame, but what to do? Even though Barça needs a striker now, and tata could try him...

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In this crisis. Never

£2.5million actually good price for him. He wasn't gonna make it to the first team. First of all because of impatience, then Deulofeu, Adama, Lee are better players.

Lee Seung Woo is fantastic but he's 14 and not a striker, Deulofeu & Adama are wide players...Sanabria is essentially the most coveted striker in the cantera

For a player who wasn't going to make it to the 1st team, doubtful Martino & the club would be working so hard to keep him...He has star potential, it'll be a big loss

FCBarca said:

Lee Seung Woo is fantastic but he's 14 and not a striker, Deulofeu & Adama are wide players...Sanabria is essentially the most coveted striker in the cantera

For a player who wasn't going to make it to the 1st team, doubtful Martino & the club would be working so hard to keep him...He has star potential, it'll be a big loss

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Even Munir and Adama in Juvenil A are better than him. He is the same type of player as Sandro and Dongou. If club valued him, he would've been promoted early like Deulofeu and Dongou. Not a big deal, he can leave.

Sanabria was promoted to the B team at 17 which is the same as Dongou & Deulofeu so that argument is moot

Munir is a terrific talent but is a little behind Sanabria in terms of development and size, IMHO...Plus, Munir has done his most damage out wide right whereas Sanabria is really the only true #9 the club has apart from say Dongou

Adama is a wing player, why would you compare him to Sanabria?

The thing about Sanabria that makes his loss harder to take is that he's actually a true striker which the club has very few of in general...Getting that mix of skill, size & composure at that age is rare which explains why the club has been trying so hard to convince him to remain/renew...Maybe not a big deal to you but the club sees it differently

FCBarca said:

The thing about Sanabria that makes his loss harder to take is that he's actually a true striker which the club has very few of in general...Getting that mix of skill, size & composure at that age is rare which explains why the club has been trying so hard to convince him to remain/renew...Maybe not a big deal to you but the club sees it differently

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This

Sanabria never was promoted for B team. He is still under Juvenil A, which shows he is not as valued as Dongou and Deulofeu. Dongou and Sandro are much better than Sanabria as pure striker. All these 3 players suck when playing for B team, because they need good midfielders behind them or they can't play as a winger. While Munir has played at all positions. If Tony can't play as a winger, then he is competing with Messi, Dongou, Sandro and Lee for the same position. He is weaker than all of them. Club didn't need him so they let him go, they offered him the same contract as all canterano got and he didn't like it.

Honestly once Paraguay fast tracked him and called him to the senior team it was always going to be difficult. Apart from more money there isn't much else Barca could have done. Players like Sandro and Samper had to play an extra year in the Juvenil A but Barca is already letting Tony start games in the second division, probably without really deserving it yet. Without the Paraguay FA ruining everything by playing him before his time this would be the year he proved him self at Juvennil level like Sandro, Dongou and Gerard had to, for 3/4 of a season at least and everything would be normal. Playing for Paraguay obviously has him and his agent thinking that isnt enough so good luck to him, even its that's dumb.

Ronnie10 said:

Sanabria never was promoted for B team. He is still under Juvenil A, which shows he is not as valued as Dongou and Deulofeu.

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Wrong

Ronnie10 said:

Dongou and Sandro are much better than Sanabria as pure striker. All these 3 players suck when playing for B team, because they need good midfielders behind them or they can't play as a winger. While Munir has played at all positions. If Tony can't play as a winger, then he is competing with Messi, Dongou, Sandro and Lee for the same position. He is weaker than all of them. Club didn't need him so they let him go, they offered him the same contract as all canterano got and he didn't like it.

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Dongou & Sandro are different types of players to Sanabria, all 3 have their strengths but more to the larger point, simplistic to compare as strikers since Tony is the only true #9 among the 3

You can keep repeating it but it doesn't make it true - Lee is not a striker, he's an attacking midfielder...they don't play at all in the same positions on the pitch

It's true that Sanabria is atypical for a Barcelona attacking player because he's more of a classic #9 than an interchangeable player in the trident, like most are in the cantera but it doesn't make him any less valuable to the club...And, again, as evidenced by how hard the club has tried to keep him, you'd be wrong to discount how much of an asset he is...It's illogical to claim they didn't 'need' him yet have featured him for Juvenil A in the NextGen and worked hard to get him to renew, even having Martino involved

It'll be easy to see how good he will become wherever he ends up, look forward to your spin in the future about how we never needed him

spark said:

Honestly once Paraguay fast tracked him and called him to the senior team it was always going to be difficult. Apart from more money there isn't much else Barca could have done. Players like Sandro and Samper had to play an extra year in the Juvenil A but Barca is already letting Tony start games in the second division, probably without really deserving it yet. Without the Paraguay FA ruining everything by playing him before his time this would be the year he proved him self at Juvennil level like Sandro, Dongou and Gerard had to, for 3/4 of a season at least and everything would be normal. Playing for Paraguay obviously has him and his agent thinking that isnt enough so good luck to him, even its that's dumb.

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Yeah, I think this is a very good point...Plus, we have no idea what financial or personal issues might be pushing for a big payday sooner than later for him & his family either...But I'd agree, his involvement with the NT and early success in the NextGen fast tracked him into notoriety and from there, the club had to either alter the way they bring cantera kids along or risk losing a major talent

There's also a theory out there that Eusebio is merely B team coach due to his personal relationship with Zubi and that cantera players see what many of us have seen, no one is developing under him - even Deulofeu left to go to develop in England rather than under him...Which, to the larger point, begs the question of if we're supposed to see the B team prepare players/talent for the 1st team and it isn't happening, what choices do these B team players have if their dream is to succeed at Barcelona?...Wouldn't surprise me at all if Eusebio factored into Sanabria's decision either

There's no easy solution there, I realize...Pros/cons to doing a variety of things to keep Sanabria but this sort of issue will likely crop up again going forward...What happens when it could just as easily be Lee Seung Woo in a few years?...Will they alter their policy to hold onto him?...There's an advantage when you're Catalan like Deulofeu and your lifelong dream is to succeed at the club but kids from other countries are not always going to go the route of Messi...Of course, Leo made the move up at a young age and was an exception to the cantera policy at the club...I have to think that while not every talent will obviously become a Leo, there will be cases where exceptions have to be considered or risk losing bonafide stars

Sanabria is one but I think we might see more of this going forward

FCBarca said:

Wrong

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Are you blind or what? He plays for Juvenil A. Have you ever seen Dongou playing for Juvenil A last year or Deulofeu before that? Whatever Tony is, he is gonna fight for the same spot as Dongou, Sandro, Messi and Lee right? He is offering less than others. Messi is also attacking midfielder by your logic.

He plays for both, I watch the Juvenil A in NextGen but also plays with the B team...But sure, I'm blind because I can't read the linked article

I saw Dongou for Juvenil A, he was outstanding..again, different sort of player - a point which you either refuse to acknowledge or simply fail to comprehend

No, Tony will be what he is, a striker...Faulty conclusion on Messi but in a few years time he absolutely will become an attacking midfielder...Do you even know what a false 9 is?...They are strikers playing in the midfield

FCBarca said:

Do you even know what a false 9 is?...They are strikers playing in the midfield

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What?