Denis Suarez

clemente said:

You are just running away from the point you were making, nobody already wants Denis in starting 11, but if needed, Valverde will comfortably place him on the left.
Iniesta/Coutinho/Dembele want to play but there are games where we need to rest them, Paulinho and Gomes already played over them too many times.

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clemente said:

He is a bum but Denis is a bum x2, had his chance million times and was a disaster.

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BBZ8800 said:

I am quite sure that a few posters from the last 2 pages would like to see Denis as a starter in some easier matches.
Because he can bring something to the team, as they claim...

You have at least 3-4 things to combine when making any lineup:
1. any 442 or 433 will need at least one workhorse (433 with Rakitic/Paulinho/Gomes and 442 with 1 or 2 of them)
2. we only have 3 workhorses in our team
3. we have way more light and technical players, so it is quite easier to play more if you are one of 3 workhorses/physical players
4. usually either Iniesta or Coutinho have to play each game, and more or less, that is a position where Denis plays. If you play him, what will you do with them?

Denis could play only in matches against Girona at home and similar.
But even there, we'll play:
Suarez-Messi-Dembele
Coutinho-workhorse-Busi

Now, if you want to play Denis in that match, it means that Iniesta won't play later in the match.
You can't sub Semedo/Roberto and Digne/Alba, as usual.
It is stupid to sub Coutinho or Dembele since they need time.
Messi can't be subbed.
Luis, the same story.
So, even in crappy matches like this, you can sub in Denis ONLY at the expense of Dembele or Coutinho (which is stupid again), or if you are leading 5:0, you can take out a workhorse and play with Coutinho-Denis midfield for the last 20 minutes.

So:
1. Denis can't play in bigger matches
2. he can't play in smaller matches as a starter, as explained above
3. he can get some minutes in the last 20 minutes of smaller matches, but even then it is quite hard to find someone who will be subbed off, usually Coutinho or Dembele

When you sum it all, he won't play too much here anymore.
Especially if you add Alena in this story, who is also a technical player and who will aim for minutes from places in a lineup reserved for technical midfielders.

Imo, Denis is way more likely to be sold than Gomes.
Gomes isn't "safe" either, but Denis has way more similar players infront of him in a pecking order.

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MessiCam said:

Listen to you... You do know that Gomes has made about 70 appearances for Barcelona and Denis only about 50... And yet Gomes is worse by a mile. Physicality... He’s just a foul merchant.

You really have no clue what you’re talking about.

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BBZ8800 said:

I am quite sure that a few posters from the last 2 pages would like to see Denis as a starter in some easier matches.
Because he can bring something to the team, as they claim...

You have at least 3-4 things to combine when making any lineup:
1. any 442 or 433 will need at least one workhorse (433 with Rakitic/Paulinho/Gomes and 442 with 1 or 2 of them)
2. we only have 3 workhorses in our team
3. we have way more light and technical players, so it is quite easier to play more if you are one of 3 workhorses/physical players
4. usually either Iniesta or Coutinho have to play each game, and more or less, that is a position where Denis plays. If you play him, what will you do with them?

Denis could play only in matches against Girona at home and similar.
But even there, we'll play:
Suarez-Messi-Dembele
Coutinho-workhorse-Busi

Now, if you want to play Denis in that match, it means that Iniesta won't play later in the match.
You can't sub Semedo/Roberto and Digne/Alba, as usual.
It is stupid to sub Coutinho or Dembele since they need time.
Messi can't be subbed.
Luis, the same story.
So, even in crappy matches like this, you can sub in Denis ONLY at the expense of Dembele or Coutinho (which is stupid again), or if you are leading 5:0, you can take out a workhorse and play with Coutinho-Denis midfield for the last 20 minutes.

So:
1. Denis can't play in bigger matches
2. he can't play in smaller matches as a starter, as explained above
3. he can get some minutes in the last 20 minutes of smaller matches, but even then it is quite hard to find someone who will be subbed off, usually Coutinho or Dembele

When you sum it all, he won't play too much here anymore.
Especially if you add Alena in this story, who is also a technical player and who will aim for minutes from places in a lineup reserved for technical midfielders.

Imo, Denis is way more likely to be sold than Gomes.
Gomes isn't "safe" either, but Denis has way more similar players infront of him in a pecking order.

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George_Costanza said:

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BBZ8800 said:

Sounds like BS.
800,000 E for each 10 matches is peanuts.
If Denis were good enough, he would surely play.
He just sucks.

On the other hand, we paid Dembele 150M and he doesn't play.
So, money is "not" a problem, to some extent.
A coach is just picking players who can fit into his plans. And he is having good results for now.

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George_Costanza said:

It's basic cost accounting, the small money being saved here and there in non-core assets do make the difference in year's end balance sheet. I would assume Semedo's treatment is partly related to this as well and this board has the history of doing it beofre.

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JamDav1982 said:

Has nothing to do with that and Valverde is clearly picking the side.

Doesnt make any sense to delay a payment on a player if they are good enough to play more.

When have they done this before when trophies at stake? Or at all?

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George_Costanza said:

What doesn't make sense? Do you have any argument? If not spare us from your usual "doesn't make sense" because you never made any sense at all to begin with.

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