Santiago Vergini

Catorce said:

Give me a good argument against having 6CBs in our squad.
The fact Song was purchased a year ago or that Mascherano, however much I like him, is Argentinian is not a compelling argument. A fifth CB is not that stupid since Puyol is injured half the time, but a sixth just does not make sense. Especially if we want to give some time to Bartra. If you don't want the latter, just sell him now. He won't develop himself by sitting on the bench or watching from the stands.

EDIT: Let's make it clear I am not trying to belittle your idea of Mascherano, I just don't see any argument for starting with so many CBs. I'd love for Vertonghen to come and another, tough and tall CB. But then either Song or Mascherano has to go...

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If 2 cbs'd come, Bartra would be loaned.

Catorce said:

Give me a good argument against having 6CBs in our squad.
The fact Song was purchased a year ago or that Mascherano, however much I like him, is Argentinian is not a compelling argument. A fifth CB is not that stupid since Puyol is injured half the time, but a sixth just does not make sense. Especially if we want to give some time to Bartra. If you don't want the latter, just sell him now. He won't develop himself by sitting on the bench or watching from the stands.

EDIT: Let's make it clear I am not trying to belittle your idea of Mascherano, I just don't see any argument for starting with so many CBs. I'd love for Vertonghen to come and another, tough and tall CB. But then either Song or Mascherano has to go...

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If we bought 2CBs which I doubt btw ,it will mean one of Sergi-Roberto or Bartra will get loaned,may be both
if Sergi is the one loaned ,Song will probably move to CM,with Masch becoming a back up DM while being used as CB depending on injuries & match up

Catorce said:

Give me a good argument against having 6CBs in our squad.
The fact Song was purchased a year ago or that Mascherano, however much I like him, is Argentinian is not a compelling argument. A fifth CB is not that stupid since Puyol is injured half the time, but a sixth just does not make sense. Especially if we want to give some time to Bartra. If you don't want the latter, just sell him now. He won't develop himself by sitting on the bench or watching from the stands.

EDIT: Let's make it clear I am not trying to belittle your idea of Mascherano, I just don't see any argument for starting with so many CBs. I'd love for Vertonghen to come and another, tough and tall CB. But then either Song or Mascherano has to go...

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I just think you're over thinking it, mate and panicking over a situation that most will welcome. We've had problems at CB as you know and providing plenty of cover means that it is unlikely to be a problem in the future.

I'm not saying being a certain nationality is enough of an arguement, but with Mascherano being the same nationality as our new coach, there will be an obvious understanding between them and if i'm not mistaken, Tata has already stated he will be counting on Mascherano, someone who he clearly has a lot of respect for as a player and person. So that really says it all (and it's besides the point anyway, because Monster Masch is a boss).

As for Song, he was bought for similar reasons to the aquisition of Mascherano. Although not as good, he's still a great squad player and able to fill in at 2 or 3 positions offering strength and energy when needed. That's the logic behind these two specifically, they're not regarded as CB's, but as utility players, able to account for more than one position and help in reduce the overall number of squad players for the season.

Of course we'll have to wait and see what Tata and management have in mind for the CB position and although I agree that it could potentially result in overkill, unnecassary purchases that are ultimately unfair on certain members of the team, it won't be the worst situation.

One last point - Bartra isn't good enough or making speedy enough progress to break in to the starting line-up when everyone is fit. He reminds me of many promising Barca youth players, obviously good enough to be considered for the first team, but requires competitive football to improve and is too weak to make the impact required.

We could buy 2 more CBs... But we would do well to shift Masch to mid field, mainly as a tactical change.

I hope Tata diches 1 DM mid field for 2 DM mid field(at least one of them being a box-to-box mid fielder) as we are overdoing the full-back attack scenario.

Going to play in the PL. He signed for Sunderland.

Imagine SUNDERLAND signed him. If he does well in the EPL his price will double or triple. That is when Barca will come along and pay big money. WHat a fuck up our scouting and technical set up is.

Barcilliant said:

Imagine SUNDERLAND signed him. If he does well in the EPL his price will double or triple. That is when Barca will come along and pay big money. WHat a fuck up our scouting and technical set up is.

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Wtf are you on about? How does Sunderland taking him on loan equal a fuck up for our scouting and technical set up? He hasn't even kicked a ball for them yet. How do you know he's going to be such a huge success? If Tata doesn't rate him enough even after coaching him to bring him over then so be it. I think our centre backs have been doing well enough this season anyway

Barcilliant said:

Imagine SUNDERLAND signed him. If he does well in the EPL his price will double or triple. That is when Barca will come along and pay big money. WHat a fuck up our scouting and technical set up is.

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Or he'll fail at Sunderland and we'll cheer that we didn't buy him. It can go either way and as far as I can tell, we're not the only top club that didn't buy him.