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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    Messi is not correct either. Unless he wants to retire with Ronaldo having a better career. This attitude doesn't really work at the highest level.
    The first part is right but CR7 doesn't take freekicks well either but keeps hogging them at madrid. Pecking order is pretty much a thing amongst all the greatest players, especially when they know they belong in that category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXKonan View Post
    He's going to have a lot of weight on his shoulders next season especially in the creative department.

    But from what he has shown since he got here I have no doubt in my mind he's up for the challenge.
    He havent even had a pre season, and has been played out of place.

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    Love the fact that he actually shoots from distance and does it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingLeo10 View Post
    The first part is right but CR7 doesn't take freekicks well either but keeps hogging them at madrid. Pecking order is pretty much a thing amongst all the greatest players, especially when they know they belong in that category.
    I always wondered if they had regular free kick competitions in training just to work out a pecking order .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoichkov1 View Post
    What attitude? Suarez is the only one who yells at his teammates and Messi has every right to take freekicks since he's the best FK taker in the world with Pjanic and Dybala.

    He probably shoud let Coutinho take FKs on the left since he's not good at them but it's not a big deal, Ronaldo for example still takes the FKs even if he's crap.
    Statistically Coutinho is the third best free kick taker in europe and Messi is not even in the top 20. The fact Messi is the best in so many aspects leads people to think hes the best at everything.

    Coutinho should take at least the free kicks in the left side.
    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/revealed-20-best-free-kick-takers-european-football

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senador Romario View Post
    Statistically Coutinho is the third best free kick taker in europe and Messi is not even in the top 20. The fact Messi is the best in so many aspects leads people to think hes the best at everything.

    Coutinho should take at least the free kicks in the left side.
    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...opean-football
    100% agree. At Liverpool he was always dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senador Romario View Post
    Statistically Coutinho is the third best free kick taker in europe and Messi is not even in the top 20. The fact Messi is the best in so many aspects leads people to think hes the best at everything.

    Coutinho should take at least the free kicks in the left side.
    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...opean-football
    Only on the left that is. Don't care what the stats say, Messi is such a threat these days from set pieces.

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    It wasn't exaggerating when I said 80% of his goals are golazos back when he joined Barcelona. He is a true magician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senador Romario View Post
    Statistically Coutinho is the third best free kick taker in europe and Messi is not even in the top 20. The fact Messi is the best in so many aspects leads people to think hes the best at everything.

    Coutinho should take at least the free kicks in the left side.
    https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...opean-football
    Sorry but that list is crap.

    Messi has 165 attempts while Coutinho has 26, the difference is so big that it's almost impossible to compare.

    If Coutinho took 165 FKs his conversion rate would drop significantly for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoichkov1 View Post
    Sorry but that list is crap.

    Messi has 165 attempts while Coutinho has 26, the difference is so big that it's almost impossible to compare.

    If Coutinho took 165 FKs his conversion rate would drop significantly for sure.
    Someone who understands variance and statistics. Thank You!

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    It's going to be a wonderful think to have him in the lineup all the time next season. His long-range threat coming in from the left side of the field will open things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoichkov1 View Post
    Sorry but that list is crap.

    Messi has 165 attempts while Coutinho has 26, the difference is so big that it's almost impossible to compare.

    If Coutinho took 165 FKs his conversion rate would drop significantly for sure.
    Yeah, that comparison is lazy. Where are the distances, the angles... not all free kicks are created equal.

    I would like Coutinho to strike them from the left too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoichkov1 View Post
    Sorry but that list is crap.

    Messi has 165 attempts while Coutinho has 26, the difference is so big that it's almost impossible to compare.

    If Coutinho took 165 FKs his conversion rate would drop significantly for sure.
    It might very well be correct, but i suspect the fact he is taking free kicks in the left is the main cause. Would need to find some stat with his conversion rate from the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoichkov1 View Post
    Sorry but that list is crap.

    Messi has 165 attempts while Coutinho has 26, the difference is so big that it's almost impossible to compare.

    If Coutinho took 165 FKs his conversion rate would drop significantly for sure.
    Also, Messi has severly turned up his quality in freekicks the last couple of years.
    Hes by far far the best freekick taker in the world the last 2-3 years.
    He might not score them all, but they almost always hit inside the goal area, he has hit the post or bar alot of times aswell.
    Saw some stat saying Ronaldo had to score his next 100 freekicks while Messi miss them all to get as high %.

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