Samuel Umtiti

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varane >Umtiti . Sam might or might not become better . But it's not even a debate now. 4 Cl's , a world cup , a league title and was decisive as well
 

Joan

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Judging young player based on trophies is pointless. Varane has been with the best club in the world since 2011., Umtiti been with us for 2 seasons. Going by trophies won, Varane is better than many all-time greats.

Not saying he isn't better than Sam, but parameters are wrong.
 

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Judging young player based on trophies is pointless. Varane has been with the best club in the world since 2011., Umtiti been with us for 2 seasons. Going by trophies won, Varane is better than many all-time greats.

Not saying he isn't better than Sam, but parameters are wrong.
Varane wasn't a passenger in that Rm squad . I am not judging him based on trophys . He was crucial in all those title wins. with Ramos and his madness he brought in that sense of calmness needed in big games . I have seen him defend like crazy in big matches . And it's not even a debate on who has been the best defender in this world cup
 

jamrock

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I drive a very nice car, you know what that means I'm better than everyone who doesn't.

Or am I just more successful

Or do some people not understand the difference
 

Joan

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Varane wasn't a passenger in that Rm squad . I am not judging him based on trophys . He was crucial in all those title wins. with Ramos and his madness he brought in that sense of calmness needed in big games . I have seen him defend like crazy in big matches . And it's not even a debate on who has been the best defender in this world cup
Never said he was a passanger. Heck, neither did I claim he's not a better defender (although I believe it).

You come here, say 'It's not even debatable' and count his trophies.

It's not a debate who was the best defender this WC.
 

RMU ReBorn

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Never said he was a passanger. Heck, neither did I claim he's not a better defender (although I believe it).

You come here, say 'It's not even debatable' and count his trophies.

It's not a debate who was the best defender this WC.
Na i didn't meant to compare them with number of Cl wins . what i meant was Varane was crucial in those Cl wins which makes him undisputed no 1 in that french team . Any way it's my mistake that i didn't conveyed it properly . Sorry for my English .
 

xXKonan

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Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?
 

Joan

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Na i didn't meant to compare them with number of Cl wins . what i meant was Varane was crucial in those Cl wins which makes him undisputed no 1 in that french team . Any way it's my mistake that i didn't conveyed it properly . Sorry for my English .

He is, no doubt, an undisputed number one this tournament.

I was arguing my impressions. Sorry if sounded harsh at times.
 

Joan

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Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?

Going by the WC performances... it's not impossible. :p

but agree with your point
 

RMU ReBorn

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Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?
Pinto was a bench plauer . Varane was their fucking starter at 22
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Going by the WC performances... it's not impossible. :p

but agree with your point
Pinto was no doubt a good GK during his prime, hell he even won the Zamora in 2006 with Celta. But in terms of pure talent? it's not even a contest between the two despite De Gea's horrible WC.
 

Joan

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Pinto was no doubt a good GK during his prime, hell he even won the Zamora in 2006 with Celta. But in terms of pure talent? it's not even a contest between the two despite De Gea's horrible WC.

:lol: Of course it's not. It was a joke.
 

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