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    Our transfers this window:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">El mercado de fichajes de invierno del Barça: Todibo, Murillo, Boateng, De Jong y Emerson. En el Barça B: Gabriel Novaes y Merveil <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fcblive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fcblive </a></p>&mdash; Albert Rogé (@albert_roge) <a href="https://twitter.com/albert_roge/status/1091048226051014658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    First team: Todibo, Murillo, Boateng, De Jong and Emerson.
    B: Gabriel Novaes and Merveil

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maldhowayanr View Post
    Our transfers this window:

    First team: Todibo, Murillo, Boateng, De Jong and Emerson.
    B: Gabriel Novaes and Merveil

    Thoughts?
    Actually very hard to tell. I know nothing about Emerson and Todibo himself is a gray area. But such deals are always good. Low risk, high reward. Content.

    Murillo, on the other hand, is the one I'm sincerely pleased with. Reliable, cheap option ready to prove himself. Technically sound, pacy, skilled one on one. Not exactly thrilled with Boatend, but as Dylan would say: when you got nothing, you got nothing to lose.

    Edit: forgot to add, should've at least tried to find a suitable backup LB.
    Last edited by Joan; 31st January 2019 at 10:14 PM.

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    I agree with. I also wish we would focus more on bringing young quality wingers for Barca B. We do not seem to have enough of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maldhowayanr View Post
    I agree with. I also wish we would focus more on bringing young quality wingers for Barca B. We do not seem to have enough of them.
    It's true we lack quality wingers in B team but with Dembele already a star in the first team, Malcom not getting minutes and EV seeing Coutinho as a winger I don't expect us investing a lot of money to buy talented wingers for Barça B with intention to make it to the first team in a year or two (which you should absolutely believe in if you're investing 5M+ in Barça B player). If we'll sell Malcom and/or Coutinho we'll probably just buy someone directly for the first team. As for Barça B we'll continue to look for cheap options like Ballou and Ndockyt and promote our kids from younger teams when they are ready. For the rest of the season we'll have to stay with C. Perez, Ndockyt and Mojica and then maybe De La Fuente and Fati will get a chance next season. But if we'll get promoted to Segunda we'll probably bring some more experienced players (I'd like to find another Arnaiz somewhere but less injury prone). Another thing to mention here is that forwards are by default usually more expensive than defenders so it's harder to gamble on them.

    Club's focus over the last few years was finding young cheap CBs both for Barça and B team because we didn't have a lot of own talents there (and our most talented CB Eric Garcia has left). With Umtiti (if he'll stay healthy), Lenglet and Todibo (if he'll make it) we have some talented young players in the first team and we might still bring De Ligt or another talented but already proven CB. We'll probably continue to look for Marlon/Cuencas for Barça B and Mina/Todibos for the first team but probably not as much if we'll feel we are good at the position for at least a few years so we'll spend more money on other positions.

    Our other focus lately seems to be a right back position. I don't think the club is totally content with Semedo/Roberto longterm (and they shouldn't be) and that's why they invested 6M in Wague and 12M in Emerson. Both of them are longshots to become our starters but there are no proven RBs realistically available on the market who would be a sure bet to invest big money in.

    On the other side I think Alba has 2-3 years at the top level left in him and Barça still believes in longterm potential of Miranda. Cucu could be bought back with some La Liga experience as a backup/bridge gap until Miranda is more ready. Or we'll just invest big money in LB when needed but I just don't see us spending big on someone like Ferland Mendy/Firpo now because he'll probably get fed up with his playing time (and he wouldn't play much with the way Alba has been playing) and want to leave before he'll even have a chance to become a starter. Ideally we would find another Digne for 20M who would do his job for 2 seasons and then we'll recuperate that money when we'd sell him and we could invest in buying a longterm new starting LB around 2021. Until then new players will emerge and we'll also see how Miranda/Cucu will develop. But I just don't see another Digne on the market so bringing back Cucu seems like the best choice to me. Let's give him next season to see what he can do. I think he's good enough to give some rest to Alba and that's what we need now because no player will take his first XI spot away.

    Further it's obvious we are looking for a longterm Suarez's replacement. We'll spend pretty serious money (around 40-60M I'd say) on a new striker in summer. We have bad history of developing strikers in La Masia as all of our once hyped top talents like Bojan, Dongou, Sandro and Munir as the latest example never really made it and I suspect Abel Ruiz will go the same way but I obviously hope to be wrong. So it's like 99% our next #9 will have to come from the outside. But preferably we'll find that player for 50M now instead of spending 200M on him in a year or two. It's possible we'll have to do that down the road anyway if our 50M signing won't turn out as expected.

    That's why trying out cheaper options like Gabriel Novaes in Barça B makes sense. He'll probably be here just 18 months or not even that long. It's unlikely he'll ever become a starter but if he's good enough to be at least a useful backup for Jović/Maxi/... after Suarez leaves I would be more than happy. Paying just a loan fee and wages for a "free trial" is still better than paying 10 or 20M for unknown quality.

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    I agree with what you said, and you are right about the club focusing certain positions. Do you happen to know if we have any talented wingers in the academy (excluding BarcaB)?

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    Looks like de jong+de ligt+griezmann for Umtiti+Malcom+Rakitic.

    75+75+120=270mio needed
    Rakitic50+Umtiti50+Malcom30= 130mio.

    Let say we have 70mio transfer money+Gomes40mio.
    Plus some change for Denis and Rafinha... Sheould be all together around 270mio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manuel blassi View Post
    Looks like de jong+de ligt+griezmann for Umtiti+Malcom+Rakitic.

    75+75+120=270mio needed
    Rakitic50+Umtiti50+Malcom30= 130mio.

    Let say we have 70mio transfer money+Gomes40mio.
    Plus some change for Denis and Rafinha... Sheould be all together around 270mio.

    we already payed for de jong / got the money for de jong from paulinho + paco's transfer.
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    Wasnt that money used for previous transfer? If not, even better 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by catalinutzR80 View Post
    we already payed for de jong / got the money for de jong from paulinho + paco's transfer.
    Nope, those paid for the overspent for overspent in Coutinho & Dembele

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaled_a_d View Post
    Nope, those paid for the overspent for overspent in Coutinho & Dembele
    We paid that from the Neymar money + money we would have spent that summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catalinutzR80 View Post
    We paid that from the Neymar money + money we would have spent that summer.
    Nope, we had gone way over the money we got.
    120+40 for Coutinho, 105+ 42 for Dembele,40M Paulinho,40 Semedo,12M for Mina & 10M for Deulofeu all while, all we got at that season other than Neymar was 10M for Masch & Tello along Neymar money
    327M fixed + 82 in variables while getting 232 only.

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    Not all the variables are payed at this moment, probably 20mil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Barcelona View Post
    Not all the variables are payed at this moment, probably 20mil.
    This I believe is the case for Coutinho, don't know OD variables, if it is based on starts we might save some there considering his injury frequency.

    Also Khaled, we don't need a net spend to purchase at zero. We have increasing revenue.

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    Is it real that Hakim Ziyech transfer release Claude is 25m pounds????
    If yes why we are not bringing him immediately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia7007 View Post
    Is it real that Hakim Ziyech transfer release Claude is 25m pounds????
    If yes why we are not bringing him immediately?
    on another forum, i heard an Ajax fan say Ziyech is likely to leave but theres no release clause. Ajax will respect where the player wants to go, same for De Ligt - no auctions