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Lot of posters talking about a possible Ballon d'Or because the magazine that gives the award is French...Where is this coming from? I don't recall any obvious French bias from them tbh. Remember Zidane won the FIFA player of the year award 3 times but only got one Ballon D'or..

Created the chance that ended with a Quaresma tap in against Croatia. :wave:

Yep, let's reduce the guy's world cup to one game where he got an early yellow card and played while ill...

in every French star's thread you will find people trying to make the argument that the player had very little to do with the team's success :lol: "It's not Mbappe, it was these four other players " " Griezmann didn't do shit, he was carried by the midfield" " Pogba did nothing, it was all the...

It's a catch 22, hype up Modric to undermine Cristiano Ronaldo's accomplishments but at the same time insist that he's nowhere near the two midfielders that supported Messi :lol:

Xavi also benefited from the quality of his teammates and the fact that he was in a system that played to his strengths. He talked about the struggles of playing under Rijkaard and recalled fans calling him " cancer " and " useless " well into the Messi era. Xavi wasn't in contention for...

Ghir katkhawar.

Is that why he was voted man of the match?

And what about Belgium's own defense? if you have trouble containing Inui, Kagawa, and the other 2 Japanese scrubs, I don't fancy your chances against France's attack.

You don't even have to go that far back, there are countless examples of players who maintained an upward trajectory in their development while playing in the French League. You signed some of them too...

Platini, Zidane, and countless other world class players had no issues developing despite playing farmers well into their mid/late 20's. ;)

No way he'll fade into irrelevance playing for a team that is a CL contender every single year.

No Higuain to throw under the bus for this one.

You're not stupid, just very biased and refuse to see it.

He'll probably follow Del Bosque's footsteps: - Take over a Real Madrid that a won a CL not too long ago and has a group of players that mastered the tournament format. - Leave when you feel that the clock is ticking for the team. - Take over a strong national team and capitalize on a golden...

Leaving on the highest possible high. NT next and then retirement I presume.

You're right, but I feel history wil be kinder to 2014-2018 Madrid than some would like. People still talk about 70's bayern and hail it as an ATG team despite their poor league from in their second and third European cup wins. ( They even managed to finish 10th in one of these seaons !! )

What? I keep reading here that this Madrid team is bang average and that Zidane is a clueless coach, yet they can't stop winning the champions league ffs. Either the team is just that good or Zidane is a freaking wizard, if not both. But apparently " luck + referees " is the hill that some...

At some point we're gonna have to concede that either this Madrid team is the greatest of all time or that Zidane is the greatest manager of all time. Maintaining the claim that this team isn't that good while also arguing that Zidane isn't a good coach is a highly illogical stance after 3...

You guys think Kroos should be dropped from the starting 11 in the final in favor of Kovacic? he's been shocking lately, shades of his early Madrid form.