Champions League 23/24

Who will win CL this season?

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Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
Morten said:
Maybe he is suited for smaller jobs, and not the absolute biggest? There are many of those coaches.

This 2nd season in United, everything has been regressing, at least with Poch and Chelsea, you have the occasionally good game where they beat some side by a few goals to give hope going forward, there is a reason United has negative goal difference.
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Yes it has been a bad season and UTD does not deserve any trophy or European position at the table.

BUT, as analyzed many times before, this season is the fault of the ones above him that had no strategic planning of the squad and no professionals like SDs deciding.
ETH is a great coach, he is not an SD. You can't teach a fish to climb a tree

Support him under a proper structure and ETH will thrive
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Forum has been 10 times less toxic already without Temp camping in and polluting threads (Messi, Xavi, Pedri etc.), going on unhinged rants versus Messi fans while making the Lewa thread unreadable following the one good performance out of every 5 disaster classes that Lewa dishes out.

It's no surprise that the people who want him back are Fati (long-time troll), Rassvet (long-time troll), and Birdy (not a troll but a fan of every club except Barca; rabid hater of Messi and Xavi). Tells you all you need to know :lol:
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
KingLeo10 said:
Forum has been 10 times less toxic already without Temp camping in and polluting threads (Messi, Xavi, Pedri etc.), going on unhinged rants versus Messi fans while making the Lewa thread unreadable following the one good performance out of every 5 disaster classes that Lewa dishes out.

It's no surprise that the people who want him back are Fati (long-time troll), Rassvet (long-time troll), and Birdy (not a troll but a fan of every club except Barca; rabid hater of Messi and Xavi). Tells you all you need to know :lol:
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Totalitarian logic at full display
You rather have a forum with no different views, and debate, but rather a closed cult of fanboys (of whoever it is) who worship instead of discussing

Tells you all you need to know
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Birdy said:
Totalitarian logic at full display
You rather have a forum with no different views, and debate, but rather a closed cult of fanboys (of whoever it is) who worship instead of discussing

Tells you all you need to know
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It's a Barcaforum. You can't go around repeatedly calling our greatest player a Qatari whore and Messi fans Pessifags and Pessidogs.

Hard concept for you to understand as a cuckold who pines for mediocre teams and coaches while raging on about Messi/Xavi etc., but this is how fanbases generally operate :lol:

Notice how I've (or others) have not asked you to be banned. You have weird views but you're not a troll.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
KingLeo10 said:
It's a Barcaforum. You can't go around repeatedly calling our greatest player a Qatari whore and Messi fans Pessifags and Pessidogs.

Hard concept for you to understand as a cuckold, but this is how fanbases generally operate :lol:
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Tempt is not a Barca fan, so the question becomes if he is 'allowed' to merely express his views
You need a few courses in freedom of speech. Surprising given that you are American.

BTW, the epitome of toxicity are posts like this by you, when you ad-honimem attack other posters, RATHER THAN players, teams, coaches
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Birdy said:
Tempt is not a Barca fan, so the question becomes if he is 'allowed' to merely express his views
You need a few courses in freedom of speech. Surprising given that you are American.

BTW, the epitome of toxicity are posts like this by you, when you ad-honimem attack other posters, RATHER THAN players, teams, coaches
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Should I list the 100s of posts where you've called me/others a clueless idiot/moron etc.? Dating back to the WC 2022, where all I said was Argentina are contenders and you launched into an ad hominem tirade?

We used to be civil back then but since your best attribute is doubling down on bad takes and NEVER admitting your mistake (classic graduate student trait - those who are actually smart know their limitations. Those who are smarter than average but not smart enough think they're infalliable which is how you come across)...reason became an ineffective means of exchange with you.

But again, no one wants you banned. You just have weird views.
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Also, lol @ the freedom of speech excuse/line of argument on a fan based football forum. No one has asked Wolfe or Morten to be banned here and they're actual RM fans. They troll Barca all the time, but without being toxic shitheads. Banter is welcome.

You can't go around using Qatari whore and Pessifags every other sentence. I know you miss him, because he used to be a vocal piece/loud speaker for your anti-Barcelona fantasies. But time to let it go :lol:
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
KingLeo10 said:
Should I list the 100s of posts where you've called me/others a clueless idiot/moron etc.? Dating back to the WC 2022, where all I said was Argentina are contenders and you launched into an ad hominem tirade?

We used to be civil back then but since your best attribute is doubling down on bad takes and NEVER admitting your mistake (classic graduate student trait - those who are actually smart know their limitations. Those who are smarter than average but not smart enough think they're infalliable which is how you come across)...reason became an ineffective means of exchange with you.

But again, no one wants you banned. You just have weird views.
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No, I don't mean just calling other names. (BTW the only three people I have called names here are you, Jammy, and Serghei. I bet there is no one else, and there is a reason for that)
I mean starting a post just to attack X person by provocation, w/o any context like a prior discussion on some subject matter

The 2nd paragraph is off-topic, we are not discussing who has correct/incorrect views here. Doubling down is something 95% of this forum does, including you

The question is that you want people BANNED because they don't worship the same gods as you.
and i repeat: do you know what FREEDOM of SPEECH is?
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Birdy said:
No, I don't mean just calling other names. (BTW the only three people I have called names here are you, Jammy, and Serghei. I bet there is no one else, and there is a reason for that)
I mean starting a post just to attack X person by provocation, w/o any context like a prior discussion on some subject matter

The 2nd paragraph is off-topic, we are not discussing who has correct/incorrect views here. Doubling down is something 95% of this forum does, including you

The question is that you want people BANNED because they don't worship the same gods as you
and i repeat: do you know what FREEDOM of SPEECH is?
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We have actual RM fans here with 10+ years of posting...never asked for them to be banned.

We used to have civil Bayern fans here too. No one asked for them to be banned.

Only toxic shitheads get banned. You need to understand the concept that freedom of speech is a poor line of defense...everyone here has freedom of speech, but there are limits, just as in actual society. Educate yourself and finish grad school first so you come out of the land of theory and into practice.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
KingLeo10 said:
We have actual RM fans here with 10+ years of posting...never asked for them to be banned.

We used to have civil Bayern fans here too. No one asked for them to be banned.

Only toxic shitheads get banned. You need to understand the concept that freedom of speech is a poor line of defense...everyone here has freedom of speech, but there are limits, just as in actual society. Educate yourself and finish grad school first so you come out of the land of theory and into practice.
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This is a perfect example of toxic ad-honimem attack, failing to stay within the discussion and employing personal life stuff

Now, you and at least 50% of posters here are not 'civil' even in the lenient sense of the word.
So that won't cut it for you

Then, nice try, freedom of speech includes calling names.
What is penalized lately in many legal systems is hate speech, particularly directed at societal groups/minorities, like hate speech against women, blacks, immigrants, etc.

Nothing to do with calling names someone's idol LOL :lol:
 
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Morten

Senior Member
In context of america, free speech is not to be surpressed by the government(though i'm sure they do it here and there), but it says nothing about in the private, i believe.
 
draconifire

draconifire

Well-known member
That said with how we know Madrid's luck is, they are going to win this tie easily.
And then they are going to spank BVB in the finals to piss on our graves. I hate myself.
 
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