Champions League 23/24

Who will win CL this season?


  • Total voters
    51

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Ugh, I don't like Bayern but I simply can't stand RM win time after time with mediocre football and shitloads of luck. So yeah, I hope Bayern win and than Dortmund spank them in the final - but if I know life RM will lift the trophy AGAIN :cry:
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
So, BVB>>>>>>>>>>>Bayern>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Real in order of preference to win this thing, obviously.

But if Madrid makes it I will take some pleasure in Mbappe joining the CL winner, which imo will taint his legacy a bit.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
I want sort kind of Madrid to win it

Logic is

Who gives a fuck if Real Madrid add another UCL but Bayern will surpass us
 

Windhook

Well-known member
To further jinx in Morten fashion - Bayern and BVB met at Wembley in the 2013 final.

Wembley will be the venue, Dortmund are there waiting for Bayern rematch.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
People here keep saying, oh, but we would make the final if Araujo didn't get the red.

Really? We just watched an arguably EL level side concede 0 goals over two ties to PSG and beat them 3-0 on aggregate whilst we were on ropes for most of the two ties.

Even if we assume we beat PSG without the red, which is not that clear, who says that we beat Dortmund? We weren't good enough at all even for the weak side of the bracket.

Fact the management and club is excusing this is remarkable. We didn't get unlucky as the main reason, as clearly shown, we just weren't good enough to deserve the final over Dortmund.

People act like it is meaningless, but this kind of mentality comes from the top down, you have even seen the players start to repeat the nonsense about how they always get unlucky every game and have been so unlucky not to do better this season. There is some pervasive culture of thinking, in spite of results, we are 'superior' to other teams, and that when we lose, there is never anything we could have done, we are always just unlucky and we always deserve it more.

Is it a surprise why Xavi's knockout record is so poor? He psyches himself out and the players before the matches even start.

You make too much sense for this forum
 

Birdy

Senior Member
@Morten
Ajax in 2019 won away 1-4 in a return leg to eliminate madrid

(Grande ETH BTW coached that win, as the imperious away win at Juventus in the QFs)
 

Morten

Senior Member
@Morten
Ajax in 2019 won away 1-4 in a return leg to eliminate madrid

(Grande ETH BTW coached that win, as the imperious away win at Juventus in the QFs)

We didn't draw the first game, we actually won it, not exactly helping my case, but the statistic did say "draw".

Anyway, ETH is about to have the worst league finish in terms of points, post Fergie, i believe, great job he is doing.

When is he going to stop being a bum?
 

Birdy

Senior Member
We didn't draw the first game, we actually won it, not exactly helping my case, but the statistic did say "draw".

Anyway, ETH is about to have the worst league finish in terms of points, post Fergie, i believe, great job he is doing.

When is he going to stop being a bum?

Bums are the ones above him right now in the non-existent UTD hierarchy. Rattclife will change that

You should be wondering how a 'bum' according to your logic can humiliate two clubs much bigger, richer than Ajax, while not stealing results, but dominating them?
 

Morten

Senior Member
Bums are the ones above him right now in the non-existent UTD hierarchy. Rattclife will change that

You should be wondering how a 'bum' according to your logic can humiliate two clubs much bigger, richer than Ajax, while not stealing results, but dominating them?

Maybe because it was the worst RM in a decade, in crisis-mode, and an Ajax team with some really good players?

Christ, you really let one season define a manager, just because you happen to like him.

Time for him to stop coasting of that season, and prove he can still do it.
 

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
I'm not a fan of Tempt since, on one occasion, he took my bantering seriously and proceeded to try and swap insults, which is not my style or what I'm here for.

But he did at least post a large amount of football related content and engage in some serious football debate.

There are many here who are far worse who only log in to insult the players, club. The only positive comments they make are regarding Madrid. Masquerading as Barca fans when they are clearly fans of Madrid.

It's sad to say there are probably far bigger thread polluters than Tempt who have never been banned.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Maybe because it was the worst RM in a decade, in crisis-mode, and an Ajax team with some really good players?

Christ, you really let one season define a manager, just because you happen to like him.

Time for him to stop coasting of that season, and prove he can still do it.

It's not one season. and it's not only the Madrid game
He coached Ajax for 5 seasons, and created two exceptional teams, the one that reached 2019 CL Semis
was raid of all the best players like FDJ and DE ligt, then created another one that peaked in 21/22, which was then raid of all its best players

See the bigger picture, and stop falling for short-sighted mottos
 

Morten

Senior Member
It's not one season. and it's not only the Madrid game
He coached Ajax for 5 seasons, and created two exceptional teams, the one that reached 2019 CL Semis
was raid of all the best players like FDJ and DE ligt, then created another one that peaked in 21/22, which was then raid of all its best players

See the bigger picture, and stop falling for short-sighted mottos

Maybe he is suited for smaller jobs, and not the absolute biggest? There are many of those coaches.

This 2nd season in United, everything has been regressing, at least with Poch and Chelsea, you have the occasionally good game where they beat some side by a few goals to give hope going forward, there is a reason United has negative goal difference.
 

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