Not close to Messi's prime. R9 is legend but if you go to any of his youtube videos, you would find comment like R9 is far superior to Messi or something like that. The truth is quite opposite. Also R9, as great as he was, he only won once league tittle at Europe in his whole career and no memorable UCL campaign (except his hatrick agaisnt Man Utd)
21 - Frenkie de Jong
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Not close to Messi's prime. R9 is legend but if you go to any of his youtube videos, you would find comment like R9 is far superior to Messi or something like that. The truth is quite opposite. Also R9, as great as he was, he only won once league tittle at Europe in his whole career and no memorable UCL campaign (except his hatrick agaisnt Man Utd)
Gnidrologist
Senior Member
Why do you whine if everybody is overrated and shit now days? Just deal that we live in shitty football era and be done with it. Or was that a hint towards the need to get rid of all our current youngsters and splash cash ona batch of others, who are supposedly better?
serghei
Senior Member
I have watched Barca longer and the current Barca still isn't the bigger mess than Gaspart's Barca.
Even though, maybe it's because today Mickey Mouse teams are weaker than then, so it is hard to suck as much as then.
Anyway, my point, even then we had players who were awesome inspite of our team being a total shit.
Rivaldo was carrying the team on his shoulders.
Puyol was better and better.
Xavi was good, way better than these overrated kids (but ok, he was Xavi).
So, I am not buying those excuses.
Poor guys.
They can't play well because of this or that.
The most likely scenario is: majority of them are overrated and a product of a new generation of youtube/twitter/forums where every good pass is analyzed to death and posted and jerked off to all ovber social media.
Today a player makes 10 good passes over a few matches at Ajax, and you will get 10 youtube videos about his skills.
Imagine if Youtube existed in 90s, how many good passes/tackles would players Seedorf, Davids have.
I don't know, for me, majority of these new gen players are insanely overrated and overhyped by millions of kids who have an access to forums/social media today.
New Xavi Arthur, decade of dominance Dembele, amazing player ruined by EV Malcom.
Even players like Mbappe, Neymar etc were always overrated a lot.
Or a clown Pogba.
Everything is overrated today due to forums, social media and easy access to every game and every pass.
And also, I am tired of these shitty new type of midfielders that were born due to Pep's era.
And again, we are the most stuck in that era and obsessed with that type:
Arthur:
zero physique, slow, can't defend, can't shoot, can't score, useless in the attacking third, can't play long balls.
But hey, he can recycle possession till death and resist press
Frenkie: questionable in defending, can't shoot, can't score, can't create, can't play long balls, useless around the box.
But hey, he can recycle possession and resist press.
Puig: zero physique, can't defend, can't shoot, can't score.
He can pass and recycle possesion
Pedri: questionable in defending, can't shoot, can't score.
He can pass here and there.
What happened with football, with all-rounder midfielders who were good at physique, technique, defending, dribbles, shooting, scoring, creating, mentality?
One of our former players, who was a key factor in Rijkaard's first season when we turned from shit into the future's team who will dominate the world for the next 10 years, Edgar Davids.
Now compare his allround skills to this shit show of these new-gen possession-recycling merchants in our club:
** Btw, as seen, Davids came when we were shit and midtable.
But some players like Ronnie and him were able to lift extremely shit team.
Other players, like Arthur and Frenkie can only get 100s of alibies.
It's always someone else's fault.
Sorry man, but you are speaking about players like Rivaldo and Ronaldinho out there. Those are the type of players I've mentioned are creme de la creme. Only those types of players can come in a trouble team and make the difference right away.
Edgar Davids was a beast of a midfielder as well. Would be the best DM in the world if he played today. Better than Casemiro and Fabinho. He played in the CL final right the year before he played for us.
I agree that players are overrated today. Which is why I'd like us to stay away from paying insane money on players like Camavinga and such.
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Alik
Moderator
You liked both Trincao and FdJ, right? Who is left in this team that you have not written off?
Only Coutinho left? Just curious.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
This is the key point. "Our players just don't match each other". Whoever built this shit of a "team" should be blamed. Usually it's the best team who wins not the best inviduals!
We shouldn't buy only based on how good someone is but how well they would fit the team from chemistry, tactical and skill wise (and other reasons), now we are signing them based on their invidual skills and marketing value.. FAIL
He is not good at anything.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Maybe, but then again those Mascherano type of players are usually not good attacking wise. FDJ isn't good attacking wise to have another one like that beside him
Imagine calling those players overrated, this sub is a 😆
I mean Ronaldo never won the champions league. What a fraud :S
Respekt_III
Anti-everything
If it wasn't obvious you're a retarded r/barca user it's clearly obvious now.
No need for that partner to attack, just to defend and pass. We already have 4 up front along with De Jong to support in connecting the dots
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