Premier League 2018/19

[El Gato]

They're so damn sharp. Those two goals waved off could have easily been fluffed and both Firmino and Wijnaldum slotted them exactly as they should have. So focused.

I'd love to see how Klopp tests his players for endurance. Most of these guys are built identically to one another with very few exceptions. Nine specimens doing very similar things and when everyone is as fast as each other, it doesn't matter if you lose an occasional goal from a set piece on height difference when you can win all the tackles on the ground.

 

[serghei]

Let's see.


Barcelona:

Busquets - 31
Arthur - 23
De Jong - 22

25.3 average age

Liverpool:

Henderson: 29
Chamberlain: 26
Wijnaldum: 28

27.6 average age

Looks to me like our midfield is younger overall. So why does Liverpool's midfield is much more active and dynamic?

 

[Tackle]

Just love the high-tempo vertical football Liverpool play. That style of attack is far more conducive to CL success than the tippy tappy shite that has proven to be worthless without prime Xaviniesta.

 

[gregorrin10]

We dont need to imagine ;D

 

[DonAK]

We've not been able to play that style of football with the slow, unathletic midfielders and forwards in our team.

 

[KingLeo10]

Just love the high-tempo vertical football Liverpool play. That style of attack is far more conducive to CL success than the tippy tappy shite that has proven to be worthless without prime Xaviniesta.

Agree. We played incisive, vertical football in Pep's first 3 years. It was 2011/2012 when it started to get stale and the players didn't want to run as much off the ball and maintained that 70% possession by mostly backpasses and sidepasses. Pep saw that and left.

This is also why Pep failed at Bayern and now City. Alonso put up above prime Xavi number of passes but 90% of them were sideways or backwards, lol.

 

[serghei]

United are missing Martial badly. He's their best attacker by a country mile.

 

[El Gato]

Let's see.


Barcelona:

Busquets - 31
Arthur - 23
De Jong - 22

25.3 average age

Liverpool:

Henderson: 29
Chamberlain: 26
Wijnaldum: 28

27.6 average age

Looks to me like our midfield is younger overall. So why does Liverpool's midfield is much more active and dynamic?

Because Busquets has never been fast or athletic, which destroys any kind of hope for cohesion you could try to argue for. Let it go, stop trying to find excuses for it man. 3 horribly old people sets the entire team back. Their oldest regular outfield player is 29 and the other who's 33 is a machine who never had anything else other than fitness and penalties in his toolkit.

 

[serghei]

Klopps style is easier to implement with a wider variety of players. So in terms of ability to implement his vision at more clubs, Klopp wins.

 

[KingLeo10]

Pool's gonna finish at like 105 points.

 

[gregorrin10]

United with 10 mins showing how you can stop Liverpool. Hang near them intensity and pressing wise, and their technical limitation in midfield and defense will show. Allow them to press you and sit back and you are dead.

This aged well. They're getting destroyed right now. I do agree the first 10 minutes were solid, but the continuation just shows the full extent of the misery that is ManU right now, they just can't cope. Not a lot of teams nowadays can, hopefully we'll be one under a while with Setien. I'd love for us to meet Liverpool again, but this time seeing us destroying them with our technical prowess...cause I'm getting pretty tired of ridiculous delusional Liverpool fans saying how their current team would destroy Pep's Barca

 

[El Gato]

United have done well to concede just one from this period of play actually. If they get something against the run of play, they can try to nick a draw.

 

[serghei]

This aged well. They're getting destroyed right now. I do agree the first 10 minutes were solid, but the continuation just shows the full extent of the misery that is ManU right now, they just can't cope. Not a lot of teams nowadays can, hopefully we'll be one under a while with Setien. I'd love for us to meet Liverpool again, but this time seeing us destroying them with our technical prowess...cause I'm getting pretty tired of ridiculous delusional Liverpool fans saying how their current team would destroy Pep's Barca

Wouldn't say they are getting destroyed. Dominated, but actually it's very close in terms of clear chances.

 

[KingLeo10]

Klopps style is easier to implement with a wider variety of players. So in terms of ability to implement his vision at more clubs, Klopp wins.

Klopp is the better manager. Pep is one of the all time greats but he had the luxury of a GOAT and 2 of the 5 best midfielders to ever grace this planet. Not to mention one of the top 3 RBs ever and WC players all around the pitch. Yes, he achieved a level of football Klopp won't but outside of that, Klopp's work is more impressive. Honestly, if they break the 100 point barrier this season and repeat the CL, Klopp has to be mentioned among the top 5ish managers of all time.

 

[serghei]

I would disagree that Klopp is the better manager in every setting. Although it is true that Pep still benefits from that unplayable Barcelona, and hasn't done that great since them.

Yes, Pep had greater players in his Barcelona team, but also, his level of domination is unseen. As great as this Liverpool are, Ernie Barcelona, the worst Barca of the last 10 years, was very close to knocking them out.

Klopp is the better manager now, but at their best, in their best environment, I'd still take Pep's Barcelona over anything else I've seen.