Ernesto Valverde - V1

[serghei]

He has changed the approach of Barca multiple times this season.

The CL is very strong this season and it is not going to be the ultimate decider on Barca.

If Barca win the double Valverde has done a great job from Barca were last August.

True. But Barca have won the double many times recently, and done it playing better looking football. Only in CL it backfired.

 

[JamDav1982]

True. But Barca have won the double many times recently, and done it playing better looking football.

What does that matter?

Those doubles were impressive as well and almost certainly never from turmoil of last September.

Judging by that he could win the treble and folk would find reason to moan.

 

[serghei]

What does that matter?

Those doubles were impressive as well and almost certainly never from turmoil of last September.

It does matter. Because if you can win doubles playing good looking football, then why should you play any other way? Unless there is something bigger to be achieved by making this sacrifice?

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

He has changed the approach of Barca multiple times this season.

The CL is very strong this season and it is not going to be the ultimate decider on Barca.

If Barca win the double Valverde has done a great job from Barca were last August.

If Chelsea knock us out, or we barely get past them only to get humiliated yet again, Valverde has failed. I don’t care how many points he gets in La Liga. Or whether he wins the great copa del rey

 

[JamDav1982]

It does matter. Because if you can win doubles playing good looking football, then why should you play any other way?

Barca have played good football and as I said in none of those seasons did Barca start with the turmoil of this one.

And no the fact Barca have won doubles in past does not lessen if do it again from a worse starting point than previously.

If Chelsea knock us out, or we barely get past them only to get humiliated yet again, Valverde has failed. I don’t care how many points he gets in La Liga.

In your opinion.

In your opinion he has failed anyway so barely relevant.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

In your opinion.

In your opinion he has failed anyway so barely relevant.

In every fan’s opinion except yes man fans like yourself.

 

[Neymessi]

He has changed the approach of Barca multiple times this season.

The CL is very strong this season and it is not going to be the ultimate decider on Barca.

If Barca win the double Valverde has done a great job from Barca were last August.

I am not too much a fan of copa but it gets included in the treble so I wish we win it but its not really much of an achievement lets be honest.

And as for league sure we have gone undefeated but is it really too tough to win it when RM have totally shit the bed in the league and this is by far the worst atletico in recent times who are playing europa? A league is always a big title but considering these circumstances I am not going to give EV a pass for a domestic double if he wins it.
Consider us undergoing a bayern thrashing 2.0 and winning the double, would you still not criticize EV just coz he won a double? Sorry but I will.

 

[El Gato]

If not for that messi magical moment what would have hapenned? And that was totally an indvidual win you can't argue there. He took a free kick and scored. No managerial tactical prowess involved. Now take that away for a second and look at it objectively. We didn't creat much and were playing safe all game.

And you would have kept the 5 point lead in the table if you drew. Except you didn't have to, because you scored. Game plan achieved. 8 points clear with about 2 or 3 difficult fixtures to go at most and contender beat in H2H.

Iniesta got injured by overplaying and its unbelievable some geniusses think otherwise.

What does that even mean?

coutinho not just because he is a great player but because it would mean some rest for iniesta but a man shouldn't dream so big.

He has been in the team for less than 2 months and you want him to be the midfield general? Or better yet you want Rakitić to do it? Lol.

We were defensively sloppy all game. So many mistakes, so many errors. Take that goal out and look at it objectively.

Atleti had 2 shots on target. 2nd team in the league in their best form of the season with Griezmann scoring near double figures in his past few fixtures. 2 shots.
[MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]
You can be limited AF like Barca under Lucho and waste your season's efforts by sticking to top-heavy approach without addressing obvious defensive flaws existing since your prime CB and RB left.

Any normal person would take Valverde's balance over that.

 

[JamDav1982]

In every fan’s opinion except yes man fans like yourself.

Haha your speaking for all fans...

Nice one.

Can feel that you want him to fail and Barca to get knocked out so eventually proven correct.

Go tell us how Atletico will win the league again.

I am not too much a fan of copa but it gets included in the treble so I wish we win it but its not really much of an achievement lets be honest.

And as for league sure we have gone undefeated but is it really too tough to win it when RM have totally shit the bed in the league and this is by far the worst atletico in recent times who are playing europa? A league is always a big title but considering these circumstances I am not going to give EV a pass for a domestic double if he wins it.
Consider us undergoing a bayern thrashing 2.0 and winning the double, would you still not criticize EV just coz he won a double? Sorry but I will.

Trying to find reasons to lessen winning the league.

Not surprised at all.

 

[serghei]

[MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]
You can be limited AF like Barca under Lucho and waste your season's efforts by sticking to top-heavy approach without addressing obvious defensive flaws existing since your prime CB and RB left.

Any normal person would take Valverde's balance over that.

Which Barca under Lucho? There were many versions. The first version of that team was much better than this one, outplayed many great teams. Even the 2nd version was more impressive a lot of times.

Yea, this team is an improvement over the deteriorated version of Lucho's Barcelona, which is the tactically naive one that got spanked 7-0 in two back to back away games.

I'd take Valverde's pragmatic approach vs the comical defending version of Lucho's Barca from last year. I'd take the great offensive Barca of the 2014-15 season and don't even think twice though.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

Haha your speaking for all fans...

Nice one.

Can feel that you want him to fail and Barca to get knocked out so eventually proven correct.

Go tell us how Atletico will win the league again.

If Chelsea knocks us out, you’ll still be defending him.

If we somehow go through and we get battered yet again in the next round, you’ll still be defending him with BUT MUH UNDUHFEATED MUH COPA DEL RAY

Valverde can push Dembbele out and you’ll still be defending him.

 

[JamDav1982]

If Chelsea knocks us out, you’ll still bbe defending him.

If we somehow go through annd we get battered yet again in the next round, you’ll still be defending him with BUT MUH UNDUHFEATED MUH COPA DEL RAY

You really are angry Barca won today and your prediction about Atletico winning league looks like more crap.

Predict worst case scenario all the time and eventually you will be right.

Keep at it.

 

[Hamzah]

So winning la liga isn't important now? Ok.

 

[Jakabor]

If Barca win the domestic double, Valverde has done more than enough to be considered a succes.

 

[Neymessi]

And you would have kept the 5 point lead in the table if you drew. Except you didn't have to, because you scored. Game plan achieved. 8 points clear with about 2 or 3 difficult fixtures to go at most and contender beat in H2H.



What does that even mean?



He has been in the team for less than 2 months and you want him to be the midfield general? Or better yet you want Rakitić to do it? Lol.



Atleti had 2 shots on target. 2nd team in the league in their best form of the season with Griezmann scoring near double figures in his past few fixtures. 2 shots.
[MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]
You can be limited AF like Barca under Lucho and waste your season's efforts by sticking to top-heavy approach without addressing obvious defensive flaws existing since your prime CB and RB left.

Any normal person would take Valverde's balance over that.

Sittin back against atletico because we have a lead is suicidal. You can expect them to go all out to attack and then counter but they are clever. They can score without commiting a lot of bodies forward. Our defeat to atletico just after the treble season in CL where we had a 2-1 lead in first leg should be lesson enough. Now you could be mislead by the results but it was a bad move, horrible subs too. Gomes? Lol

It means he played iniesta a lot making him injured.

No? I don't him to be the midfield general I want his playing time to be delicately balanced with iniesta's so that we can get the best out of both and also take advantage of the fact that coutinho can't play CL. The huge lead in league should have meant much more time for coutinhio than iniesta in league.

Atleti are shit in attack this season thats why. And atleti had less shots coz we were lucky those defensive errors luckily didn't turn into 1v1's