Champions League 2017/18

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Scary when watch the front players of Liverpool or City pressing and energy they have in midfield.

Barca have Suarez who defends a bit and Messi who does even less and a slow midfield.

Other teams look harder working and more pace about them and more variety.

If Barca play slow passing to Messi who trots towards ball and is faced with ten men Barca wont go far. Need more work rate, movement off the ball and variety.

Barely any point buying likes of Dembele or Coutinho if going to make them into system players for Messi and to an extent Suarez.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
PSG should of sacked Emerys bitch ass after that 6-1 last season. why did he take Cavani off? PSG would of been better off going for the 2nd the way their defence is. its bottle mentaility, they should sign Higuain
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Ronaldo sells. You guys are Barca fans repeating the same things about how Ronaldo does this, or does that, or this, or that, basically fueling his brand, and then complain that he is too popular? :lol:

I mean, I feel disgraced whenever someone mentions Ronaldo is the best playeri n the world. Have they actually watched game of football? What Ronaldo and Messi does is on different level. Ronaldo being on the best team in the world right now helps him. Messi has to everything himself. Impossible even for his standards. Look at Argentina.. he is failure not winning World Cup. Fujcking joke.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ronaldo sells. You guys are Barca fans repeating the same things about how Ronaldo does this, or does that, or this, or that, basically fueling his brand, and then complain that he is too popular? :lol:

Exactly.

Only really on here that there is such talk of Ronaldo for balon dor etc.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Scary when watch the front players of Liverpool or City pressing and energy they have in midfield.

Barca have Suarez who defends a bit and Messi who does even less and a slow midfield.

Other teams look harder working and more pace about them and more variety.

If Barca play slow passing to Messi who trots towards ball and is faced with ten men Barca wont go far. Need more work rate, movement off the ball and variety.

Barely any point buying likes of Dembele or Coutinho if going to make them into system players for Messi and to an extent Suarez.

I agree. It doesn't pay off to just give the ball to Messi now. Too many good teams that can block him. He's just a player and his influence in CL has been getting less important in recent years.
 
:lol: QSG. Of course they go 1-0 up and then bottle it. Not sure why I expected anything else. Silly me.

Give us Madrid in the next round. Don't trust anyone else against them at this point. Maybe Bayern. Even in City I see bottle potential.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
You guys call PSG a bunch of chokers but in the same post say that RM have already won the competition, Ronaldo balon d’or, blah blah blah.

Real has only one competition left. They can foucs all their energy on this. They will be very strong. Almost all other teams are still fighting for something else than CL. Real will be in semifinal again..


Bayern and ManC can relax, but everyone else has to fight for something.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I mean, I feel disgraced whenever someone mentions Ronaldo is the best playeri n the world. Have they actually watched game of football? What Ronaldo and Messi does is on different level. Ronaldo being on the best team in the world right now helps him. Messi has to everything himself. Impossible even for his standards. Look at Argentina.. he is failure not winning World Cup. Fujcking joke.

Real are not the best team and Messi does not do everything himself.

In some ways too much is given up to Messi and it can make Barca too one dimensional against the better sides.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Scary when watch the front players of Liverpool or City pressing and energy they have in midfield.

Barca have Suarez who defends a bit and Messi who does even less and a slow midfield.

Other teams look harder working and more pace about them and more variety.

If Barca play slow passing to Messi who trots towards ball and is faced with ten men Barca wont go far. Need more work rate, movement off the ball and variety.

Barely any point buying likes of Dembele or Coutinho if going to make them into system players for Messi and to an extent Suarez.


Well said. I think that's our problem. We are just building up too slow. Imagine Isco with this team, we would team of Snails.


That's why, Dembele, while frustrating at times could bring us something new. At least he has balls to try to challenge players and make things happen. We need more players like that. Although I question his defensive work ethic..
 

jairzinho

Senior Member
Emery stood there clueless watching Madrid run rings around PSG midfield.

Should have tightened things up at least by the 60th minute mark, starting with hauling off Celso.

Prime Matuidi was missed in a game like this.
 

BruceWayne11

New member
Look at Higuian. Two goals yesterday and he was spitted on(Truth is he could have finished the tie yesterday). Ronaldo scores two and he is the hero. Fucking joke.

Ronaldo must be one of the luckiest guys on earth. Seriously. Play for Real and get the credit for being the best in the world. Haha. Fucking joke,.

He's had ideal conditions in Real, where he gets so many goals on a platter. In many ways, he's a poacher. There is nothing wrong with that, as they are an incredibly important part of a team. However, when did poachers win consecutive Ballon D'ors against superior individual talents? In a way, the adaption he has done is ingenious in Real, because they've had a good enough team to supply him with goals, and he still benefits from the memory of what he could do earlier in his career. Thus, arguably, he's got an easier time winning Ballon D'ors as a worse player overall. Ironic.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Well said. I think that's our problem. We are just building up too slow. Imagine Isco with this team, we would team of Snails.


That's why, Dembele, while frustrating at times could bring us something new. At least he has balls to try to challenge players and make things happen. We need more players like that. Although I question his defensive work ethic..

Part of that is down to way Messi plays and players who seem in awe of him and look for him too much.

I had Liverpool game on at same time and their pressing/pace from front when defending and movement off ball when attacking is something that Barca dont.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
He's had ideal conditions in Real, where he gets so many goals on a platter. In many ways, he's a poacher. There is nothing wrong with that, as they are an incredibly important part of a team. However, when did poachers win consecutive Ballon D'ors against superior individual talents? In a way, the adaption he has done is ingenious in Real, because they've had a good enough team to supply him with goals, and he still benefits from the memory what he could do earlier in his career. Thus, arguably, he's got an easier time winning Ballon D'ors as a worse player overall. Ironic.

IT's true and that's why Ronaldo will never leave Real, unless he has to. He has it good.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
He's had ideal conditions in Real, where he gets so many goals on a platter. In many ways, he's a poacher. There is nothing wrong with that, as they are an incredibly important part of a team. However, when did poachers win consecutive Ballon D'ors against superior individual talents? In a way, the adaption he has done is ingenious in Real, because they've had a good enough team to supply him with goals, and he still benefits from the memory what he could do earlier in his career. Thus, arguably, he's got an easier time winning Ballon D'ors as a worse player overall. Ironic.

He's their best and most decisive player, he creates his own chances with his movement
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Part of that is down to way Messi plays and players who seem in awe of him and look for him too much.

I had Liverpool game on at same time and their pressing/pace from front when defending and movement off ball when attacking is something that Barca dont.

But this probably comes down to us being old team as well. We were different 10 years ago, when we had young legs. It's just different now.. We can't play same way as 10 years ago. Look at Messi ten years ago. He was energetic, but he can't do that anymore, unless you want him injured every second game.


We have to play differently, because our core age is getting there..
 

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