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Devils

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load? three facts and one overstatement(msn was brilliant, not only messi, but they secured the titles)

Then you would have to accredit Messi for creating the best defense in Europe and bringing both Dani and Pique back to form after two chaotic seasons. You would have to credit Messi with creating an effective midfield while it was a clearly suffering tremendously from Sept - Dec, but became incredibly efficient from Jan - June.

Load of bollocks.
 
Defense played a huge part in that too. Enrique had a direct impact in the team, I don't know how anyone can dispute that.

I admit we improved corner situations. We were terrible during tata era. Thats the only thing I am willing to credit enrique for.

And people should be more precise: In janury most wanted to sack him due to crazy rotations and generally bad football. I you rewatch enriques first half season you will notice that the defense is actually average at best, but Bravo is just outstanding. He saved many points for us and contributed enormuesly. And his performances had nothing to do with defensively organization.

And what happened in 2015. Was it enriques master plan. No, messi said it himself, he told suarez to "stay there" and they worked it out. And I think most people aknowledge that MSN was our main weapon.
 
Then you would have to accredit Messi for creating the best defense in Europe and bringing both Dani and Pique back to form after two chaotic seasons. You would have to credit Messi with creating an effective midfield while it was a clearly suffering tremendously from Sept - Dec, but became incredibly efficient from Jan - June.

Load of bollocks.

Aha, so dani and piques form is due to enrique? How? Dani was our worst player in the fall 2014. Pique was motivated on his own. Why not credit enrique for messis form also. But that was due to the italian guy yes.
 

Devils

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Aha, so dani and piques form is due to enrique? How? Dani was our worst player in the fall 2014. Pique was motivated on his own. Why not credit enrique for messis form also. But that was due to the italian guy yes.

You obviously have never played football or understand how it works.

Lucho and his staff train these players week in and week out from September to June. To say "oh Messi's form is because of his dietician" or "Pique was just motivated by himself" is so comedic.

I'm not even sure if I am talking with a troll or someone who just doesn't have a clue. :lol:
 
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You obviously have never played football or understand how it works.

Lucho and his staff train these players week in and week out from September to June. To say "oh Messi's form is because of his dietician" or "Pique was just motivated by himself" is so comedic.

I'm not even sure if I am talking with a troll or someone who just doesn't have a clue. :lol:

You obviously have never played football or understand how it works. Just a standard nonsense personal attack.

My argument was not that messis form was only due to his dietican, but that it obviously helped him. http://www.espnfc.com/barcelona/story/2488255/lionel-messi-benefiting-from-new-diet-nutritionist

concerning pique the argument wasnt that "pique just motivated himself, you should follow the principle of charity. My point was that enrique shouldnt be that much credited. http://www.weloba.com/article/pique-i-recognized-that-i-wasnt-among-the-bests-to-motivate

Stop using words like comic and troll. State your opinions, argue and be easy on the rhetoric. You risk end up zero content.
 

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