Pes 2010

[Monte-Barça]

This is soooo coool!


http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/17982/402750_thumb.jpg

http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/17982/394204_thumb.jpg

Link: Download Here! (http://www.gamershell.com/pc/pes_2010/screenshots.html?id=402750)

P.S.
Year 2010! I think that FC Barcelona had greatest times in this decade.
Visca!

[Scott]

I will buy pes10 for ps3!

[Monte-Barça]

I will buy pes10 for ps3!

Then must wait until October. :)
Until then:
http://www.telefonino.net/new_files/images/global/PES-2009_36293_1.jpg

[Lemmi]

they look pretty amazing but it will have to convince me because PES09 is garbage, first time since fifa 97 i went to the darkside but you werent left with a choice. abhorrent step back.

[Monte-Barça]

PC version is great, I heard PS3 version is bad.

[Lemmi]

xbox360 was awful.

the stats are also intolerably bad.

[Scott]

Then must wait until October. :)
Until then:
http://www.telefonino.net/new_files/images/global/PES-2009_36293_1.jpg



offcourse i know that.

Got now fifa 09. I was always a pes fan, but since 2008 i buy fifa. :angry:

i think that 10 will be great :party00231:

[Monte-Barça]

xbox360 was awful.

the stats are also intolerably bad.

You should try PC version. Gameplay is greatly balanced - something between PES 2005 and PES 2008. They took best from boat of them. Only PES06 was below standards.

[kozhell]

I think PES 10 won't work on my current computer specs. :D

[ChelseaFanLello]

I play PES on PS2, but I am a FIFA fan more than PES, for the fact that it has more teams, more licensed ones, better Manager Mode, and more realistic....

[R10(FCB)]

on PC PES is much better then FIFA to me...

[PaulFCB]

PC FIFA sucks big time, thats why I bought my PS3, games are better even though till September when I bought my machine I kinda forgot about electronic games for some years!
FIFA on PS3 is great, next year I'll also buy PES, the prices are big ( Damn costs like 100$ a new game in the stores ) but there are a lot of guys who sell them after buying them en-gross from abroad.
Still, I won't mod my PS3 so I can play online, practically thats why I bought it.

[Monte-Barça]

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Messi's looking virtually nice :) I'm so happy he's the first face of PES 2010.

[The Fallen]

Gonna get it on PC when it comes out, for free of course. :)

[Jordzibob]

Gonna get it on PC when it comes out, for free of course. :)

:beer2: Hell yeh, the joys of illegal downloading

[Fourteen]

I'll have you both....

[The Fallen]

:beer2: Hell yeh, the joys of illegal downloading
Nah my brother works in a PC store, so I burn every big PC game that comes out and take it home. :D

[Jordzibob]

Nah my brother works in a PC store, so I burn every big PC game that comes out and take it home. :D

:lol: You lucky bastard, what a thief you are! I at least spend the time waiting for my illegal download to come through like the good person I am.....

[Fourteen]

"Dear Konami,

I have this friend you see, his name is Anton and he feels the need to physically steal from your company each and every year.

I am worried about his mental stability and fear he has the mind of a criminal. I'm writing to let you know, so that you can make the decision yourself, on how you wish to proceed along the lines of legal action. His IP adress is (enter IP adress here), which should provide you with some evidence that he is playing your new and wonderful Pro Evolution Soccer 10 illegally.

I hope this is of use to Konami's interests and if you wish to know more, please do not hesitate into asking me for further details.

Kind Regards,

Your number 1 fan."


.......................I'll do it....

[Monte-Barça]

Nah my brother works in a PC store, so I burn every big PC game that comes out and take it home. :D

And you use legal keys?

[Fourteen]

And you use legal keys?
Nothing about what he does is legal, Monte...He's Australian after all.

[Monte-Barça]

Hehehe.. I thought Balkan people are bad :D

[BarçAFan10]

FIFA 1:p will carve up :party00231:

[The Fallen]

And you use legal keys?
Nothing about what he does is legal, Monte...He's Australian after all.
Hehehe.. I thought Balkan people are bad :D
:lol: Yeah the downfall of getting it from the shop is that I don't get to play online unless of course I buy it, which will be cheaper than anyone else can get it, so I still win. :D

[TiTi]

PES is the best football game for me... I can't wait till october.. anyway I will play some fifa 10 till PES comes out.. Fifa 10 demo will be relased in 5 days. :)

[Beast]

I already posted images from the new series in the M&C thread.. excellent graphics this year ..
now for the licensed teams :

basically almost all International teams are here
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Africa

Angola3
Cameroon
Côte d'Ivoire1
Egypt
Ghana1
Guinea2
Mali2
Morocco3
Nigeria
Senegal
South Africa
Togo3
Tunisia

Asia

Australia1
Bahrain2
China
Iran
Iraq2
Japan1
Kuwait2
North Korea2
Oman2
Qatar2
Saudi Arabia
South Korea1
Syria2
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan2

Europe
Austria
Belgium
Bosnia and Herzegovina2
Bulgaria
Croatia1
Czech Republic1
Denmark
England1
Finland
France1
Germany1
Greece1
Hungary
Republic of Ireland1
Israel
Italy1
Montenegro2
Netherlands1
Northern Ireland1
Norway
Poland
Portugal1
Romania
Russia
Scotland1
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain1
Sweden1
Switzerland
Turkey1
Ukraine
Wales

The Americas

Canada
Costa Rica
Honduras2
Mexico
Trinidad and Tobago3
United States
Argentina1
Bolivia2
Brazil1
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
Paraguay
Peru
Uruguay
Venezuela3


Notes
1 – Fully licensed teams
2 – Teams new to the series
3 – Teams making a re-appearance to the series

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regarding the leagues

fully licensed
Serie A
Erdevise
Ligue 1
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EPL : Liverpool & Man United (extra editorial work will be done or download an option file = much easier )
La Liga : 12 teams licensed: Athletic Bilbao, Atlético Madrid, Barcelona, Deportivo La Coruña, Espanyol, Mallorca, Racing Santander, Real Madrid, Real Valladolid, Sevilla, Valencia and Villarreal.
(another set of editing )

Other teams A

Anderlecht1
Club Brugge1
Standard Liège1
Dinamo Zagreb1
Slavia Prague1
Sparta Prague1 3
Brøndby1
Copenhagen1
HJK Helsinki1
AEK Athens1
Olympiacos1
Panathinaikos1
PAOK1 2
Rosenborg
Wisła Kraków1 3
Benfica1
Braga1 2
Porto1
Sporting CP1
CFR Cluj1
Dinamo Bucureşti1
Lokomotiv Moscow1 3
Spartak Moscow1
Zenit St. Petersburg1
Aberdeen1 2
Celtic1
Hearts1 2
Rangers1
Red Star Belgrade1
AIK1
Göteborg1
Hammarby1
Kalmar1 2
Basel1
Beşiktaş1
Fenerbahçe1
Galatasaray1
Sivasspor1 2
Dynamo Kyiv1
Metalist Kharkiv1 2
Shakhtar Donetsk
Boca Juniors1
River Plate1
Internacional1

Notes
1 – Fully licensed teams
2 – Teams new to the series
3 – Teams making a re-appearance to the series
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The good news is with an exclusive deal with UEFA, both the UEFA Champions League and, for the first time, the UEFA Europa League, will be fully licensed. The tournaments will be integrated into the Master League mode.

[Cule Angles]

Any idea what page of the M&C thread they're on?

[Beast]

Yep

http://www.barcaforum.com/showpost.php?p=131985&postcount=4557

you can see the difference in graphics between 09 & 10

[Lemmi]

Great list. I'm sure it will look amazing and hopefully they fixed the shit shooting and defenders running away from attackers on breaks (why I switched to fifa) but also do some proper work on the stats because it really is where they are let down the most. You have everyone who has emerged in the last years still crap and players like Sheva etc who are past it being gods. That really has to be fixed.

Do you think they realised they regressed with 09??

[The Fallen]

Looks fucking brilliant. I can't wait. Hope it comes out for the PC at the same time as the consoles. :)

[Cule Angles]

Impressive progress on the graphics front, have they remembered to actually improve the game though?

[Beast]

Great list. I'm sure it will look amazing and hopefully they fixed the shit shooting and defenders running away from attackers on breaks (why I switched to fifa) but also do some proper work on the stats because it really is where they are let down the most. You have everyone who has emerged in the last years still crap and players like Sheva etc who are past it being gods. That really has to be fixed.

Do you think they realised they regressed with 09??

From what i saw (check the video posted in the 1st page about tactics & team orders applied to Barca that for you Ry & CA) they did a LOTTTTTTTTTTTT of work in terms of game play , making it easier and much more sophisticated than before and compared to FIFA.

regarding the stats and players i think they did a good job with the updates ( PES2009 had 4 updates last winter , including raising some stats for some players -or a fact i know Bojan was pushed up- / updated all winter transfers and inclusion of new players ) .
I was surprised when someone mentioned before they didn't include players like Pedro, i have Pedro in my version so is the last English shirt.. i think what they will do this time is improve more stats in the updates (which i normally don't care about as i already push everyone -literally everyone to make the game harder )

I still believe this year they will do a great job compared to last year

[Cule Angles]

The Bernabéu is included in FIFA 10

[Beast]

more screenshots posted by Jordan

http://www.barcaforum.com/showpost.php?p=132066&postcount=4565

The Bernabéu is included in FIFA 10

PES 2010 Licensed stadiums
# Stadium Country Team
1 Anfield Liverpool
2 Old Trafford Manchester United
3 Wembley Stadium England
4 Camp Nou Barcelona
5 Santiago Bernabéu Real Madrid
6 Estádio do Dragão Porto
7 Estádio José Alvalade Sporting CP
8 Estádio da Luz Benfica
9 Amsterdam Arena Ajax
10 El Monumental River Plate
11 Saitama Stadium Urawa Red Diamonds
12 Stade de France France
13 Stade Louis II AS Monaco
14 San Siro Milan and Internazionale
15 Stadio Olimpico Roma and Lazio

[Lemmi]

have missed evo, but the newest one was so bad. you just dont get the epic games on fifa with your mates that you do on pro.

stats for me is where the game will prove its worth, because i hate editing them myself but its so necessary sometimes, whereas 97/100 fifa will get theres close to spot on

[Cule Angles]

Good point Lemmi, FIFA is very good at producing hard fought games and gritty encounters but it just doesn't have the "epic" factor that PES did when it was on the PS2.

[Lemmi]

our halls with our 12 man league of destiny was epic, pes6 on xbox may not have had edit mode but the gameplay was so much fun.

[Beast]

have missed evo, but the newest one was so bad. you just dont get the epic games on fifa with your mates that you do on pro.

stats for me is where the game will prove its worth, because i hate editing them myself but its so necessary sometimes, whereas 97/100 fifa will get theres close to spot on

you can always fix that with a simple download Ry.
I know Fifa stats are higher but it's all relative to your opponents stats

average 70 in PES will do the same job of average 80 in FIFA ..

80 vs 80 rating = 70 vs 70 rating

[Lemmi]

yeah obv, but the realism. they were few tragedies in terms of stats in fifa whereas evo would baffle me and make the games unfair because they hadnt bothered to research or edit in years to make development or ageing.

i am finally on xbox live so looking forward to getting the d/loads this year.

[Monte-Barça]

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Latest gameplay video.. Something weird with AL, or EASY, EASY gameplay..

Also, admins should change name of the thread just to "PES 2010". :2145960713mundoemot

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Hopefully they have the contracts to use players names and clubs.No more of than Van Nistelroom and Man Red bullshit.

[kozhell]

It says in the video the difficulty is on beginner/amateur...and why is Arbeloa still in Liverpool? :D they never get all of the transfers right...

[blueduck]

FIFA 10 Demo is out now.

It's even better than last year.

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Yeah saw it in town today.Fifa always release the new game too early, then the transfer's are all wrong.

[blueduck]

You mean PES ?

FIFA's not even out yet. The DEMO is though.

[Cule Angles]

That video of PES makes it look as though they haven't improved a thing gameplay wise, the player dribbling still looks far too limited, the movements unrealistic....maybe it's better than last year's but it's not a patch on FIFA09 let alone what EA have promised for the new version.

[blueduck]

Have you played the demo for FIFA CA ?

[Cule Angles]

Downloading now mate, but very sloooooooowwwwwwwlyyyyy.

[John Antonio Bilboa]

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Screw pro cant wait to get my hands on the new Fifa.

[blueduck]

Yea it took a while for me too. Well worth it.

The games are only about 5 mins long though.

FIFA 10 Gameplay Vid :

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[Beast]

That video of PES makes it look as though they haven't improved a thing gameplay wise, the player dribbling still looks far too limited, the movements unrealistic....maybe it's better than last year's but it's not a patch on FIFA09 let alone what EA have promised for the new version.

It's an old demo with amateur level = amateurish responses from the AI ..

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Hopefully its as good on the PSP as it is on the PS3.

[Beast]

Yea it took a while for me too. Well worth it.

The games are only about 5 mins long though.

FIFA 10 Gameplay Vid :

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exactly the same body movement/response/dribble they had the last 3 years :sad:

That would made me hate FIFA , it's like the players face trouble changing body movement/direction

[Hamzah]

but the dribbling is now 360 degrees

[The Fallen]

Fuck me, 2GB for the Fifa demo? Fuck that, got way better things to use 2GB on. I'll just get it and PES from my brother's work then see which one is better.

What's the release date for FIFA 10?

[blueduck]

exactly the same body movement/response/dribble they had the last 3 years :sad:

That would made me hate FIFA , it's like the players face trouble changing body movement/direction

It's changed loads :confused:

Fuck me, 2GB for the Fifa demo? Fuck that, got way better things to use 2GB on. I'll just get it and PES from my brother's work then see which one is better.

What's the release date for FIFA 10?

I's only 975Mb for me on Live.

2nd October for us, 1st for you.

[The Fallen]

What the fuck is Walcott of all people doing on the front of FIFA? :lol:

October 1st release for Australia, sweet. October 23rd for PES. October will be a good month. :)

[blueduck]

He's only on the front of the British one.

[Cule Angles]

30th September for Spain according to FNAC's online store. Xavi and Benzine on the front of the box.

[The Fallen]

He's only on the front of the British one.
Yeah, but it's Walcott... WALCOTT!!! Get me? How does he deserve to be on the front next to Rooney and Lampard? You put stars on the front of the game cover, not 'yet to come good' players.

[blueduck]

They're going for English players and he must have been the cheapest.

[Hamzah]

how dare they have a 'british' cover with only english stars??!!! :p

[blueduck]

Which Scottish star would you have instead Hamzah ?

[The Fallen]

Maybe they wanted a player each of the top teams in England, and the only English player in Arsenal is Walcott, while Gerrard should be in jail and Carragher isn't box worthy. :lol:

[Hamzah]

Which Scottish star would you have instead Hamzah ?

why, darren fletcher of course :lol:

[Beast]

It's changed loads :confused:

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i honestly didn't see any change .. i still regret the money i paid for FIFA 08 with stupid options like having to go all way out of the game to make a costume formation

but the dribbling is now 360 degrees

the 360 is also a feature for PES 2010 .. FIFA still look & feel so artificial in terms of game play.. but it's heaven for those who love the "license " thingy.. personally i get any of the option files from the internet and i personally like to edit teams\


you will never get a proper FIFA from EA until they move to the UK like back in the 90's .. don't expect a proper football game when football is 5th or 6th fav sport in the country and they call it Soccer

[Cal-FCB]

Still going to stick to Fifa this year, the last two Pro Evo's were massively disappointing on 360. forced me to convert last season. Fifa 09 is awesome so no real reason to change back tbh. Pro is just too arcadey compared.

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Lets have Theo Walcott and Ashley Young on the cover tired of Ronnie.

[The Fallen]

Gotta love contrasting opinions. One person says PES is too arcadey while somebody else says FIFA is too artificial. :lol:

Lets have Theo Walcott and Ashley Young on the cover tired of Ronnie.
Walcott is a muppet. Young would be a good choice on the cover next to Rooney and Lampard.

[Hamzah]

the license and graphics are very important though, they make you feel as if the game is on the tv. i must say the gameplay is flawed though and emphasises realism over fun which is what i want from a game

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Still going to stick to Fifa this year, the last two Pro Evo's were massively disappointing on 360. forced me to convert last season. Fifa 09 is awesome so no real reason to change back tbh. Pro is just too arcadey compared.

True the trailers on TV always look so good until you play and realize that all they've done since last year, is fix up the transfers and add the new kits. :thumbsdown:

[Beast]

the license and graphics are very important though, they make you feel as if the game is on the tv. i must say the gameplay is flawed though and emphasises realism over fun which is what i want from a game

Graphics as u can see is better than FIFA this year.. u can easily add realism , PES fan do every freakin thing .. i had the entire EPL sides with logo's,Kits..etc all with a small download from PESFAN website

[blueduck]

i honestly didn't see any change .. i still regret the money i paid for FIFA 08 with stupid options like having to go all way out of the game to make a costume formation

the 360 is also a feature for PES 2010 .. FIFA still look & feel so artificial in terms of game play.. but it's heaven for those who love the "license " thingy.. personally i get any of the option files from the internet and i personally like to edit teams\

you will never get a proper FIFA from EA until they move to the UK like back in the 90's .. don't expect a proper football game when football is 5th or 6th fav sport in the country and they call it Soccer

It changed a bit between 08 & 09. It's changed loads now.

I was a PES fan too until PES 6, it was shockingly bad. The graphics on PES look more reliastic but Fifa's gameplay is waaay ahead in the last few years.
PES went down the arcadey route to please the Asian fans. Big mistake imo.

[Galning]

I'm going to buy Fifa10. Never bought PES, but player it a couple of times and personally I like Fifa a lot more.

[blueduck]

Good lad. :)

[Hamzah]

you are right beast-this is the first year i'm seriously considering converting. and the champions league license is soo temtping

[Cal-FCB]

It changed a bit between 08 & 09. It's changed loads now.

I was a PES fan too until PES 6, it was shockingly bad. The graphics on PES look more reliastic but Fifa's gameplay is waaay ahead in the last few years.
PES went down the arcadey route to please the Asian fans. Big mistake imo.

Exactly, the gameplay is like 100mph with no real thought behind every attack. That's what I like about Fifa you can build nice passing moves and be proud if you work an opening.

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Fifa is way better than pro, i just cant get over the way everything is like card board in pro, even the way the ball leaves the players feet is so fake.

[Hamzah]

is there any pes gameplay vids so we can compare properly?

[The Fallen]

Just borrow them from a video game shop and see which one you like more. You can't compared them via videos, you have to play them.

[Hamzah]

can you rent new releases?

[Lemmi]

fifa 10 demo is good, but i dont think i can do another year of fifa. its a bit dull. so PES just needs to be good again for me.

[The Fallen]

@Hamzah, Of course...
fifa 10 demo is good, but i dont think i can do another year of fifa. its a bit dull. so PES just needs to be good again for me.
I've found that with FIFA for a long time, it's just too dull and boring. It's like they try too hard to be realistic and it just fails IMO. There's no real excitement. Pro Evo tournaments >>> all.

[Beast]

is there any pes gameplay vids so we can compare properly?

FIRST PAGE IN TOPIC

AND IT's IN HD :D

[Lemmi]

thats why pro just need to not be shit. the guys im living with this year are pro fans too. wish they would exchange release dates though :(

[Hamzah]

FIRST PAGE IN TOPIC

AND IT's IN HD :D

:party00231: lol

[Beast]

thats why pro just need to not be shit. the guys im living with this year are pro fans too. wish they would exchange release dates though :(

This is very true.. so i'm not alone..
had the same feeling with Fifa 08 as well .. i don't know why it feels like one season in FIFA = 2/3 master league season in PES .. plus it's all about pass/pass/pass shoot .. u score some amazing goals in PES compared to FIFa..

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Fifa 08 was particularly crap.

[Hamzah]

who else thinks the passes take ages to get to the other players and the urgency and responsivness of the ai is crap?

[blueduck]

Is FIFA the most popular over all ?

PES is obviously more popular in Asia, but what about everywhere else ?

[kozhell]

This years Fifa is the same as 09, just that it has the "360 degree dribbling" - which can't be used to it's full potential if you don't have a gamepad. There are lots of bugs in-game, which should get fixed till the full game gets released in october. They've been using Andy G(r)ay as the commentator since forever, but I can live with that. The grass is also just awful.

The AI is smarter, I like how they corrected the shooting bar(harder to master) and the view, when you have to save a penalty. Dribbling is more fluid with the 360 degree system. The quick throw-ins are nice. And finally: the damn side referee is ALIVE! :D

I would love to play PES 2010 this year, but my computer probably won't be able to support it so I'll have to stick with FIFA this year. :/

[BarçAFan10]

Just got fifa 10 demo it's awsome great graphics, movement and shooting all improve from 09, passing, crosses ect. also very much improved. "LET'S FIFA 10"

[TiTi]

PES > FIFA every fvcking day :)

Is FIFA the most popular over all ?

PES is obviously more popular in Asia, but what about everywhere else ?

PES is more popular in Balkan too.

[Fourteen]

Fifa 10 on the playing service looks evidently fresher with improved graphics and little tweaks being made to make the game more realistic, but the full version will really show how it's improved. Playing Fifa, especially since last year feels like you're playing a very realistic game of football, but Manager Mode, Be A Pro and other aspects need to become richer for it to be truley outstanding.

As for PES, i'm looking more forward to that than I am Fifa. I'll have Fifa first so naturally i'll play and enjoy that, but as soon as PES comes out, Fifa will take a back seat for a while.

[Cule Angles]

Just got fifa 10 demo it's awsome great graphics, movement and shooting all improve from 09, passing, crosses ect. also very much improved. "LET'S FIFA 10"

Amazing isn't it? The vast increase in the pace of the game is the most outstanding feature from my POV, plus the feeling that you have way more control over your moves on the pitch and dribbling etc. It really feels like a proper game of sexy football now and I can't wait to settle down with the full version at the end of the month. There are a few minor bugs in the demo version but it's safe to assume they'll be ironed out in the full release. I'll be FIFA 10ing, that's for sure.

PES > FIFA every fvcking day :)



Before last year's versions yes, but FIFA has improved infinitely in the last two versions whilst PES 2009 was gash. I say that as somebody who dumped the FIFA series after FIFA 99 and only got converted last year. Konami have just been lazy in recent years with their updates, barely improving the game before last year it seemed to go backwards and that was the end for me. Pro Evo will have to do something pretty spectacular to tempt me back because the FIFA 10 demo is a blinder.

[Esteve]

One thing I hate about FIFA09 is that, in manager mode, when you buy a good player he usually takes the #2 as that's the lowest outfield number. WTF is the story with that? Villa wearing #2 looks gimpy as fuck. Oh and then in another manager mode, I bought Zlatan and he took Iniesta's fuckin' #8! What a load of shit! Don Andrés wearing #19 to accommodate Ibra is criminal.

And you can't change it. That better change!

[Hamzah]

thats because the new player takes the number he had preiously no matter who plays there. i transferred cr9 to real and he wore 7 while raul wore 28

[Lemmi]

Gomis then Jovetic wore 2 for me.

Vexes me so.

[Esteve]

Villa wears 2 for Valencia? :D

My point is that you can't change it, like you could in previous years and in PES like, every year. So yeah, that's gay.

EDIT: This is a reply to Hamzah, not Lemmi!

[Hamzah]

did the guy you signed wear the number 7 for his previous club? and i think manager mode is different from 'club transfers' section when it comes to squad numbers

[Esteve]

did the guy you signed wear the number 7 for his previous club? and i think manager mode is different from 'club transfers' section when it comes to squad numbers

Yeah, man. It is. I signed Villa before I started a season & he wore #7. But when I bought him during manager mode, he wore that fuckin' #2. On EA's website, they said that it'd take too much time and a bit more money. Shocking :lol:

[Lemmi]

i just love the edit mode so much on evo, pes 5 kit editor was amazing. my kit was something special. fifa should really tap that.

[kozhell]

i just love the edit mode so much on evo, pes 5 kit editor was amazing. my kit was something special. fifa should really tap that.

FIFA should be made in the UK...then, we would have a proper football game ;) As long as FIFA is going to be made in a country where they call the sport "soccer", they won't deliver anything special.

[BarçAFan10]

yeh there are a fair few mistakes in the demo e.g petr cech's rank is 64 lol, ref still getting in the fu@king way not as much as in fifa 09, piqué, maxwell, pedro, jeffren, look nothin like in reality, messi gets caught running down the line by shitty defenders??, your keeper is always off his line and just comes out without your say so leaving the attacker to chip the ball over and iniesta doesnt have his snazy yellow boot's :sad: other than the bad stuff CA seaid all the good.

[Cule Angles]

Apparently the demo is three builds behind the full version so expect major improvements when the game is released at the end of the month.

[blueduck]

The only problem I've had with the demo is the background fading.

E.g when a player is getting a card all you can see clearly is the player getting a card and the ref, the rest is blurred out. This will be easy to fix.

The game itself feels much more rewarding because it's harder to score 30 yard screamers or dribble through players, which makes it feel like you've done something special.

[gvt2000]

This year might finally be the year i switch to FIFA. I played the demo and LOVED it. I'll still wait for the PES demo to make the final decision. I have a feeling it won't make a big difference though, the previews indicate PES will keep the same engine as last year, and I've gone through enough frustration this generation to torture myself with PES 3 year old engine again.

[kozhell]

Could someone use these controls:

http://www.shrani.si/f/1k/jy/YLydg8/controls.jpg

and tell me if they have a problem with ordinary passing? When I press S for passing, the player that passes tries to play a "pass & run"...(like pressing Q + S with the controls I have given)


I want to know if I'm the only one with this problem -_-

[gvt2000]

Kozwell i have a tip for you: Go to your local videogame store and buy yourself a wired xbox controller. If you're running vista it should download the drivers and let you configure it as any other joypad, if not, they sell xbox controllers specially made for computers. Football games are not ment to be played with a keyboard.

[Fourteen]

Apparently the demo is three builds behind the full version so expect major improvements when the game is released at the end of the month.
That's good to hear. I dind't notice any changes of the crowds, could just be me though.

Reading some of your posts, I know exactly what you mean. The smaller details need to be worked on with Fifa and with Pro it's the opposite because the small details they have are brilliant.

[beef-supreme]

I see why people like Pro Evo but of late, FIFA has been way ahead for me. And it's looking pretty good for 10 as well. It's a shame I'll be off to uni, because I'll miss my brother's PS3 so much :sad:

[Monte-Barça]

Guys, PES 2010 Demo available now!
You can download it here:
http://www.gamershell.com/pc/pes_2010/downloads.html

Cheers!

[kozhell]

Downloading it now, I hope it will work on my computer... :D

[kozhell]

Anybody tried the demo yet? I played 2 games and I think gameplay wise, Konami have made a significant improvement(unlike EA Sports). The tactics are awesome, you can set how you play to the very last detail, the ball isn't glued to the players feet anymore(for example, when you sprint with the ball, there is a good chance the player might send the ball too much in front of him), long passing isn't so accurate anymore(in 2009, it ALWAYS went exactly to the player you were passing it to),...

PES 2010 > FIFA 2010, that's for sure.

[Aasim]

Is the demo out for PS3 yet?? or just PC.

[kozhell]

As far as I know, just for PC. But I'm not 100% sure.

[Hamzah]

only two weeks or so till fifa comes out i can't wait!!

[Monte-Barça]

Players movement completely different.. Need some time to use to.

[Monte-Barça]

I can not feel the difference between Regular and Top player... It's same in this demo.. :hmmm:

[AdnanMessi]

Bosnia2? Does that make them licensed?

[Hamzah]

apparently crap players don't get true 360 movement if thier touch rating isn't high enough

[Valon]

If defenders are clueless morons who try to tackle from behind and run like headless chickens I'm not gonna bother playing this game this year.

[Hamzah]

question about fifa: when defending, can i switch players properly? do the defenders i'm not controlling actually react?

they certainly don't do it properly in 09

[Fourteen]

We can't see into the future i'm afraid...

[Hamzah]

you might have the demo

[Fourteen]

Either way, that wouldn't really mean much since it's not the finished article.

[Valon]

Just played PES2010 demo and I thought it's a bit better than PES2009 at least when comparing the PS2 version with the PC one. I never played PES2009 on the PC so I don't know if it's better than the PS2 version but I hate PS2 version with a passion. Now to check Fifa10 demo.

[Lemmi]

pretty crappy demo

[Aasim]

What's so crappy about it?

PES 2010 is an improvement on 09. The main improvement is the tacics you can chose which are very good IMO.

[kozhell]

PES 2010 is available on torrents...Or you can wait another 3 days and buy the game. :)

[The Fallen]

Buy?! PSH. I should be getting it on Saturday, yay!

[Monte-Barça]

I waited for PES 2010, and in meantime tried FIFA 10.. It's silly game if you compared it with PES. I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of improvements since earlier FIFAs but still not close to PES.

Checking the torrents..

Nope, for PC still not out.. Just PS2 (and PS3 probably..)

Actually, it's out - Reloaded version..

Some help with rapid links here if it's allowed:
http://rapidserbia.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=91529

[Antimilan]

I just love PES ! Been my favourite soccer game since PES 4 (for pc), and the past winning elevens (for ps1).

Is it official that It'll come out the next monday ?

P.S. Valon, if you know anything about PES releasing in Kosovo, let me know about it.

[Valon]

Just check any CD shop in the next 2-3 days after release man, they will have pirate copies right away but be careful since some CD Shops already have a game called PES2010 but it's fake.

[Monte-Barça]

Been playing all day. It's great, maybe a bit too fast, but improved in lot of things. My recommendation if you play with Barca to add 5-6 more points in Player Support section..
:2145960713mundoemot

P.S. Also in Top Level game is much harder than before, and that's very very good, can't get boring..

[The Fallen]

Good to hear. I like it when the game I fast though, more action packed.

[kozhell]

Also in Top Level game is much harder than before, and that's very very good, can't get boring..

I noticed that too. In 2009, if you were skilled enough, could easily break down any defense on top level...Now, it's VERY hard. :p

I played an exhibition game on top player, el classico, and Real was leading 2:0 most of the game, then I barely got back into it in the last 15 minutes with two goals...And then that fat chubby benziza scored a scorcher from 30 yards out in the 90th minute. I was just shocked, because stuff like that didn't happen in 2009. :D


Anyway:
PES 2010 > PES 2009
PES 2010 > FIFA 10 (PC ofc)

[The Fallen]

Yeah PC FIFA 10 is fucking poor, it's just 04 with updated rosters. Oh well, until I get a PS3 or EA decide to make the next-gen FIFA for PC, I'll be playing PES.

[kozhell]

Well I haven't tried FIFA for PS3/Xbox, but a friend of mine has it and I'll probably go try it out sometime next week. And yes, FIFA for PC is piss poor, I only have it so I play occasionally play it over hamachi with my friends...other then that, it's just a waste of space on my hard drive. :D PES with patches = win.

[Cule Angles]

Video games on PC is so 1990s :lol:

[The Fallen]

Hey, I get them for free and I have an awesome computer that can run practically any game, it's so not 1990's. :D

[FinCulé]

So today is the release date! I am at school at the moment but when I get home the game should wait me on the kitchen table! I pre-ordered it from Play.com and it costed 25€. Pretty cheap...

[Cule Angles]

I look forward to reading an unbiased review if that's possible! In all honesty anybody who professes to have loved PES forever isn't going to be objective when the consensus is that the series has gone downhill in the past three or so editions.

[Monte-Barça]

PES 2010 is the best football game ever. First impression was great, but after few hours of playing, now I'm sure! Best PES edition before this one was 2005 (for that time). Also, I can not understand that someone can talk about PES quality if he's playing FIFA. That's silly and childish.. I played this new FIFA for 2 weeks and easily won Liga, CL i Spanish cup on top level. Last time I played FIFA was 3 years ago. There's no any challenge there, gameplay is years behind PES, and so on, so on...

P.S.
If you think that PC as game machine is so 1990s upgrade your computer... Dual Core Processor, some NVidia GX200 series graphic card (or similar ATI) - and say that again. PC graphical capabilities are again extremely close to PS3 right now and will be in front very soon, until PS4. Also, upgrade of PC will cost less than PS3 if you calculate how much money you gave for PS3 games. And if we are talking about any other console than PS3, don't be childish, quality PC will eat all of them.

[Cule Angles]

Some of us aren't blindly loyal to one particular series, we actually like to compare both and see which is better. The number of converts to FIFA in the last two editions is staggering and people have been swapping for a reason. The day that PES gets better I'll switch straight back but given what you've posted before I'm going to wait until somebody more objective has posted their thoughts because you were always going to love the game.

[Monte-Barça]

I tried FIFA. Played for 2 weeks. What should I do else than that??

[kozhell]

FIFA for PC is shit. Period.

[Cule Angles]

I tried FIFA. Played for 2 weeks. What should I do else than that??

Yes but unfortunately you'd made up your mind before you'd played it, just as you'd made up your mind about PES before you'd played it.

[Monte-Barça]

Yes but unfortunately you'd made up your mind before you'd played it, just as you'd made up your mind about PES before you'd played it.

I played FIFA 10 for 2 weeks, than said my opinion, I played PES 2010 for 6-7 hours since yesterday morning (PES is available for download for 3 days now) and said my opinion! Should I draw it to you? How old are you? Are you working on EA Sports? What's wrong with you?

[Cule Angles]

Nothing's wrong with me, I just happen to be an extremely objective person who doesn't make up his mind before having a suitable chance to form an opinion. I never denied that you'd played both, I merely question whether you approached them with an open mind and your previous posts on the subject suggest that was never going to be the case. Sorry but your opinion isn't one I shall be seeking on this issue.

[Monte-Barça]

OK, I see now. Whatever I say will not be good for you cause you're FIFA fan. So keep on dribbling entire defense with one player and score goals, it doesn't have to be Ibra or Messi - Yaya Toure and Abidal are quite enough. About you being "extremely objective person" your opinion regarding PC as gaming machine is very good proof of it. Since my opinions are irrelevant, from now on just skip my posts in any thread, cause I'm beginning to think that you have some problems about me - and only you. Strange..

[Cule Angles]

The thing is I'm not a FIFA fan at all, last year was the first time I'd bought FIFA for about 10 years but Pro Evo had become seriously sucky. On the PS3 it's impossible to dribble through the whole opposition with one player.

[blueduck]

So keep on dribbling entire defense with one player and score goals, it doesn't have to be Ibra or Messi - Yaya Toure and Abidal are quite enough.

Maybe in 09, but not in 10.

[Monte-Barça]

So, your posts are irrelevant, we are talking here about PC version, at least most of us, and we stated it clearly. Don't understand why you're arguing with me. I heard about issues with PES on PS3, but I didn't trie it, and so I'm not talking about it at all.

By the way, I only tried PES on Wii, and Wii isn't console for that kind of games. Though boxing games on Wii are entertaining and sweaty.

Maybe in 09, but not in 10.

On PC? Than I'm damn good, but I don't think so.

[iced1776]

I can't imagine playing football games on the PC, doesn't that destroy the entire concept of the 360 dribbling?

[blueduck]

On PC? Than I'm damn good, but I don't think so.

Footy games aren't meant to be played on PC.

I can't imagine playing football games on the PC, doesn't that destroy the entire concept of the 360 dribbling?

Exactly.

[Monte-Barça]

Footy games aren't meant to be played on PC.



Exactly.

Don't understand why. Graphics are better on PC than Xbox (with proper configuration, off course), also larger choice of joypads. Generally speaking about Xbox, it has same concept as PC, Microsoft made it anyway, but it's not upgradable as PC. Only console that leaves a PC a years behind when came out is PS3, and since it's out for 4 years now, graphic difference is very small now..

[kozhell]

Footy games aren't meant to be played on PC.

You can play the game on PC with a gamepad and it's the same like on a console(real 360° movement).

[blueduck]

I know, but it just feels wrong.

[Cule Angles]

Games these days (sports sims especially) are built for the consoles so the PC version is never as good.

[iced1776]

Well if you have a gamepad thats one thing, I wasn't aware people actually used em lol

[kozhell]

Well, some have gamepads...I don't. :p But I've been thinking of buying one, just because of the 360° movement.

[The Fallen]

Some of us aren't blindly loyal to one particular series, we actually like to compare both and see which is better. The number of converts to FIFA in the last two editions is staggering and people have been swapping for a reason. The day that PES gets better I'll switch straight back but given what you've posted before I'm going to wait until somebody more objective has posted their thoughts because you were always going to love the game.
Well from what I've read of PES 10 reviews is that this latest one is definately a big step up from the previous ones which have been going downhill in the eyes of many, but at the same time it still isn't at FIFA 10's level. Konami are still playing catch up and we'll have to wait until next year or the year after before they probably reach the same or a better level.

I got a ps controller converter so at least I don't have to play with the keyboard. :D The PC version of PES was actually better a few years ago I remember reading. It's exactly the same on PC as it is for consoles generally speaking, most sports games are, only FIFA is shitter on the PC cause EA don't bother with it.

[IrvDizzle]

nor should they. The realm of PC gaming world has been reduced to MMORPGs.

in 2002 I dropped $2500 on a new PC because I wanted to be able to play the newest hottest games. Last year I dropped $1000 on a PC that would be hardpressed to load new games, never mind play them. It's all about my PS3, and for 90% of the gamers out there, it's all about their console.

I suggest you find a way to get PS3 games for free and get a PS3 instead of waiting for FFXIII.

[The Fallen]

There are plenty of good games to play on PC tbh, and more to come. Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 just to name 2 games that will be better than 95% of console games.

I wish I could get PS3 games for free, the best I could hope for is cost price. At least when I get my PS3 it'll be discounted due to some heavy dodginess on the part of somebody I know.

[iced1776]

nor should they. The realm of PC gaming world has been reduced to MMORPGs.

in 2002 I dropped $2500 on a new PC because I wanted to be able to play the newest hottest games. Last year I dropped $1000 on a PC that would be hardpressed to load new games, never mind play them. It's all about my PS3, and for 90% of the gamers out there, it's all about their console.

I suggest you find a way to get PS3 games for free and get a PS3 instead of waiting for FFXIII.

who in gods name is building your computers for you??? i got mine built for 800 and it can play anything at least decently.

[Beast]

Guardian review /verdict that it's better then FIFA on the pitch , Eddy also said the same thing in FIFA thread

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2009/oct/23/games

[The Fallen]

Don't think I'll be getting this today, don't know if my brother went to work yesterday or if his work got it in. :angry: Might have to wait until next week or something. Gayness.

[iced1776]

Guardian review /verdict that it's better then FIFA on the pitch , Eddy also said the same thing in FIFA thread

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2009/oct/23/games

oh cool argument settled i'll go return fifa now thanks!

[Edward]

Why are the stadiums so damn crappy? :lol:

[Hamzah]

we all know reviews are nonsense. fifa and pes pay the reviewers to say whatever the press package says. judge for yourself!

[Beast]

Konami has taken player likeness to another level completely .. players faces feels like they can come off the screen

[Rivaldo]

Except Zlatan looks like an ogre with a throat tumor.

[Beast]

ehm but he does look like that Rivaldo ;)

there is no contest between FIFA & PES in that area.. ffs Rooney looks like he is in a real life.. most if not all big players and even promising guys *like Negredo , Busquests * like amazingly accurate and alive it's unbelievable

[Edward]

What do you think of the gameplay?

[Beast]

it's different then the last installment of the game , the ball is way unpredictable .. player control are better i felt the 360 passing my way with Messi (play with Argentina in the WC ) i played 2 games Real Madrid - Lyon (for the awesome away shirt ) and WC with Argentina and beat the Czech republic 1-0 through a last minute Messi goal (5 minutes and pro-level )
i don't have time to play a lot tonight as i'm dead tired driving around town .. and i need to edit the damn thing first i'll wait for a good option file to install so far one guy (WENB ) made an option file with all the EPL kits /latest transfers /Liga kits and every international team plus 3 Bundesliga sides (B Munich,Wolfsburg and Stuttgart ) so i'm going to install this tomorrow and wait till someone change the blank 18 teams to the german league and unlock the classic teams & players /real names for the classic teams (go to gallary and check what u have to do to unlock them in case u don't know ) ..
so far it's great

[Edward]

I didn't know about classic teams, I suppose to unlock them you have to win certain tournaments an various levels?

[Monte-Barça]

OF for PC:
http://www.4shared.com/get/142850487/a54c11ea/sammy_k_84_PES_2010_OF_23-10-09.html;jsessionid=6D73D7632637209618A88AD200BD33D B.dc90

[Beast]

I didn't know about classic teams, I suppose to unlock them you have to win certain tournaments an various levels?

now with various levels..
win the WC with Argentina to unlock Argentina classical team
same for Holland,Italy,Brazil,England,France,Germany..

than u have other classical players not playing each time u win a trophy (spanish league for example open up a set of players ranging from the likes of Hierro,Luis Enrique,Butregano,Laudrup,Hugo Sanchez,Stoichkov..etc ) win the English league and u open a set of players like Dalglish,Ian Rush..etc

winning the African nations cup open a set of classical African players , Copa America open a set of SA players not in the classical national teams ..
the level of the game doesn't matter if it's easy or hard just win

[Fourteen]

The African players look like exact matches of their real life counterparts and also the top players like Ferdinand, Terry, Marquez, Messi, Torres - they look top notch.

Benzema on the other hand, he looks like Dr. Evil.

Enjoying the game and i'm obsessed with Valencia at the moment starting a Master League with them, but I think i'll try someone different.

[Incognito]

So which one is best Gio?

[Cule Angles]

Beast prefers Pro Evo.

[Incognito]

Damn. I had to get Fifa10 as my son preferred it. I am more of an ISS man.

[Beast]

i just played 2 games Sunny and i'm @ work ... i will need more time give me till Thursday
but without a shadow of a doubt PES 2010 is way way way better then 09 in everything but it's little fast ..

never mind CA he is just angry not everyone is riding the UK FIFA craze it's still a very good game but less enjoyable it doesn't push you to go back to the gaming console like the PES

[BarçAFan10]

Fifa is better ;D

[Incognito]

That is what I am finding. It's good but it's not doing it for me.

[Cule Angles]

i just played 2 games Sunny and i'm @ work ... i will need more time give me till Thursday
but without a shadow of a doubt PES 2010 is way way way better then 09 in everything but it's little fast ..

never mind CA he is just angry not everyone is riding the UK FIFA craze it's still a very good game but less enjoyable it doesn't push you to go back to the gaming console like the PES

Nothing to do with the UK, I just don't like people who set out their stall weeks in advance as you and another member have done. I could have told you over a month ago that you were going to prefer PES

[Beast]

Nothing to do with the UK, I just don't like people who set out their stall weeks in advance as you and another member have done. I could have told you over a month ago that you were going to prefer PES

I have the full game which i experienced a little last night u talk from a 60 % finished demo.. i could have said u will prefer FIFA based on the fact that u already bought it and it's way way better then any other games from FIFA or PES selection before it no doubt..but after 3 weeks with FIFA it's not a chair grabber , you don't miss playing in it as much as people do with PES not even close in fact it becomes a bit predictable after a while even with the major improvements , the fact that FIFA appeal to the UK /English audience is quite remarkable probably has to the do with the way the game play which is pass around a lot
So enjoy it but don't get too defensive when others prefer PES CA , it's a matter of personal preference as i said i'm yet to give my full verdict on the FINISHED copy but i guess so many people already enjoy and that include someone like Eddie who has zero prior preference to both series

That is what I am finding. It's good but it's not doing it for me.

same here u feel it's lacks soul ..

The African players look like exact matches of their real life counterparts and also the top players like Ferdinand, Terry, Marquez, Messi, Torres - they look top notch.

Benzema on the other hand, he looks like Dr. Evil.

Enjoying the game and i'm obsessed with Valencia at the moment starting a Master League with them, but I think i'll try someone different.

very true :lol:
however Xabi & Rooney are top notch

on the left PES & on the right FIFA
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7802/rooney.jpg

[Cule Angles]

Thanks for mentioning Eddie, his is the kind of opinion which is valid in a situation such as this because he clearly hadn't made up his mind prior to playing the games. I'll be popping into Alicante some time soon to play PES in one of the games shops before deciding if I want to buy it. I used to be a massive Pro Evo fan and the CL licensing means I'd love to switch back. I haven't made my mind up whatsoever, I just think that FIFA's a top game and if I get a chance to try out Pro I'll do so.

[Beast]

Thanks for mentioning Eddie, his is the kind of opinion which is valid in a situation such as this because he clearly hadn't made up his mind prior to playing the games. I'll be popping into Alicante some time soon to play PES in one of the games shops before deciding if I want to buy it. I used to be a massive Pro Evo fan and the CL licensing means I'd love to switch back. I haven't made my mind up whatsoever, I just think that FIFA's a top game and if I get a chance to try out Pro I'll do so.

FIFA 10 is a top game CA .. it really is and when i tried playing PES 09 in the last 2 weeks it felt like a game from the 90's (so bad and stupid ) but something about it makes it so systematic and less enjoyable like it lacks a sould ..
Give PES a try CA i don't think you'll regret it cause it's very good from the initial feel , i will give my review by Thursday if u are interested in reading it i can't give a verdict after 2 games except minor stuff like the player controls & the faces (which is a KO especially if u have an HD TV as u can see from the Rooney sample apply that to every major big team )

[Edward]

I got beat in the CL by atletico :lol: Shame about the PES commentators though. I hate Lawrenceson and whilst jon champion is good martin tyler is better.

I still can't get over how UNrealistic the stadiums are, or shall I say the ground really. Each ground looks the same to me with only minimal visual differences.

That is where Fifa is better as you can easily notice the difference of each ground. I also prefer the fifa cameras to the PES cameras.

As I said crossing and heading (attacking) are so much better on PES and the passing on PES is more realistic in as such a bad pass won't reach your teammate whilst in fifa is does more often than not.

Shooting is better on PES imo though I can't do finesse shots (help please!!!) fifa has finesse shots that are easier to pull off. Long balls or long passes are better in fifa than PES but depending on your view it may be worse as you have to be more accurate.

The CL is a major pull for me but fifa has the all the major leagues and has manager mode - imo that is fifa's biggest pull.

So to summarise.

If I want to just play and chill out and test myself then it is PES

If I want to play in a premier league or la liga and want to play manager mode and be a pro then Fifa.

In game play terms each has its pros and cons and PES has better likenesses of players whilst Fifa has the better stadiums.

[Incognito]

So if you had to say one or see your family raped in front of you and then hacked to pieces and fed to the dogs, which one would you punt for?

[Beast]

In manager mode PES wins hands down Eddie .. wait till u get to know it and now the new changes such as :

- upgrade your training managers (stolen from FIFA )
- scout doing the players negotiation
- in the cup mode of the Master league u are no longer playing with second divisions team but u compete with division 1 teams as well
- reaching Europe means actually playing in the CL or the Europa league
- i also heard that now u can start the season by doing transfers but i haven't played the ML yet

[Incognito]

The old PES Manager mode was pretty shit though. A little too 'Far East' for me anyway

[Beast]

yep the old one was terrible but they made plenty of changes hell i can honestly say PES music selection this year is way better than FIFA

[Edward]

Did not know there was a manager mode on PES :lol:

[Beast]

:lol:

go to the master league Eddie, pick exhibition mode players (i think it's still the same ) and pick your team then others team .. if play the Master league players mode u will be given Liverpool with unknown made up players which u should guide to first division

[Edward]

The made up players are probably better hahaha!

[Beast]

here is a list of the hidden players (Eddie u unlock them after u win trophies, with their modern day teams for the National teams , and the hidden set of players based on you winning trophies on club level )
the fake names are on the right and the real names are on the left

Hidden Players

SB - BEGA - Habib Beye (Aston Villa)
CF - AMEYO HONAM - Mido (Zamalek SC)
SMF - GHAURI - Hossam Ghaly (Al-Nassr)
OMF - KOBATA - Daigo Kobayashi (Stabæk Fotball)
CF - TAKAMURA - Naohiro Takahara (Urawa Red Diamonds)
OMF - XU JINWEI - Shao Jiayi (Energie Cottbus)
CF - VIROTA - Mark Viduka (NIL)
CB - BAJUDACCHI - Andrea Barzagli (Wolfsburg)
CB - MASETANG - Alexander Madlung (Wolfsburg)
GK - BUZO - Hans-Jörg Butt (Bayern Munchen)
CB - BCARU - Breno (Bayern Munchen)

DMF - ORSCHAL - Andreas Ottl (Bayern Munchen)
CMF - BOTANASKI - Tim Borowski (Werder Bremen)
OMF - EL SORKU - José Ernesto Sosa (Bayern Munchen)
OMF - BARSJONG - Alexander Baumjohann (Bayern Munchen)
SB - LANE - Christian Lell (Bayern Munchen)
GK - SCHWARZ - Jens Lehmann (VfL Stuttgart)
SMF - KHENASH - Sami Khedira (VfL Stuttgart)
SMF - HISNEIT - Roberto Hilbert (VfL Stuttgart)
OMF - BARTOLIK - Yıldıray Baştürk (VfL Stuttgart)
CF - CARAO - Cacau (VfL Stuttgart)
SMF - EMEITZ - Patrick Ebert (Hertha Berlin)
GK - RONDO - Frank Rost (Hamburg)
SMF - ZE ROMENTO - Zé Roberto (Hamburg)
CB - ALLEN SINGA - Alex Silva (Hamburg)
GK - WEIDENLAGER - Roman Weidenfeller (Dortmund)
SB - ORTAMELA - Patrick Owomoyela (Dortmund)
SB - DEAN - Dedé (Dortmund)
DMF - KELEM - Sebastian Kehl (Dortmund)
GK - HULEGRASE - Timo Hildebrand (1899 Hoffenheim)
CB - JEANTOIR - Jérôme Boateng (Hamburg)
GK - NOLAND - Manuel Neuer (Schalke 04)
CB - BOGLON - Marcelo Bordon (Schalke 04)
OMF - JOCHIMA - Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04)
SB - RAFNAL - Rafinha (Schalke 04)
SB - PARGOE - Christian Pander (Schalke 04)
ST - FAMLAN - Jefferson Farfán (Schalke 04)
ST - AGUOLA - Gerald Asamoah (Schalke 04)
CF - KMOLO - Kevin Kurányi (Schalke 04)
SB - CASTROL - Gonzalo Castro (Bayer Leverkusen)
OMF - TOJIKLABE - Toni Kroos (Bayer Leverkusen)
CB - HUBELMEIS - Mats Hummels (Dortmund)
CB - NALIN - Naldo (Werder Bremen)

SB - BERSCHNER - Sebastian Boenisch (Werder Bremen)
OMF - MENCHIL - Mesut Özil (Werder Bremen)
ST - HURANZE - Aaron Hunt (Werder Bremen)
CF - HARMEY - Mike Hanke (Hannover 96)
OMF - OGURA - Shinji Ono (Bochum)
ST - NOGLAU - Oliver Neuville (Borussia Mönchengladbach)
OMF - RESGRAL - Renato Augusto (Bayer Leverkusen)
CB - M D HO - Hong Myung-Bo
OMF - STJANORIC - Dragan Stojković
DMF - LAW KIT - Roy Keane
CB - CORSO - Fernando Couto
OMF - LOO CORNA - Rui Costa
SMF - FILLC - Luís Figo
CF - PATENCA Pauleta
DMF - ISLERO Fernando - Hierro
DMF - GULANGIALA - Pep Guardiola
SMF - MEYELENA - Gaizka Mendieta
CB - HEMNARA - Iván Helguera
ST - WAIYRIN - Sylvain Wiltord
SMF - ZERGAIV - Boudewijn Zenden (Sunderland)
CF - VILENI - Christian Vieri
OMF - NETRET - Pavel Nedvěd
SMF- POPOCHSKI - Karel Poborský
CF - KEMAR - Jan Koller
OMF - SIOM - Mehmet Scholl
GK - SHIRAWTEL - Peter Schmeichel
CF - SOLASAL - Ole Gunnar Solskjær
OMF - LJANKENI - Freddie Ljungberg (Seattle Sounders)
CF - SHURAK - Davor Šuker
CF - BORAMIKKI - Alen Bokšić
CB - MINILOVIC - Siniša Mihajlović
CF - MIRAKENIC - Predrag Mijatović
CF - HALAH SUMUL - Hakan Şükür
SMF - KAYUKIN - Valery Karpin
OMF - MOWKERAI - Aleksandr Mostovoi
SB - H. TRAHELCI - Hatem Trabelsi
OMF - OTOKA - Jay-Jay Okocha
CF - ELKAMA - Patrick M'Boma
SMF - FOOTYN - Quinton Fortune (Doncaster Rovers)
ST - ZUWA - Sibusiso Zuma (FC Nordsjælland)
CF - NOYLETE - Siyabonga Nomvethe (Moroka Swallows)
GK- CALMEN - Jorge Campos
ST - BRANT - Cuauhtémoc Blanco (Chicago Fire)
CMF - ENELKON - Emerson
ST - REVANT - Rivaldo (FC Bunyodkor)
CF - SAGATZ - Marcelo Salas
CF - SALSALO - Iván Zamorano
GK - CHIMRAL - José Luis Chilavert
GK - CATIRI - Fabián Carini (Clube Atlético Mineiro)
CB - MORTENO - Paolo Montero
ST - REORA - Álvaro Recoba (Panionios)
CF - ZAMAELLIA - Marcelo Zalayeta (Bologna)
ST - OJQUERA - Ariel Ortega (River Plate)
SB - SOIM - Juan Pablo Sorín
OMF - NIRASAKI - Hidetoshi Nakata
CF - DAHOO - Ali Daei
CMF - BACK - Nicky Butt (Newcastle United)
SB - SYREMINO Sylvinho (Manchester City)
CF - FILLER - Robbie Fowler (North Queensland Fury)
ST - SMEARL - Alan Smith (Newcastle United)
SMF - ROOTZ ELIQUELO - Luis Enrique
CF - WIEGO - George Weah
SMF - FARZEL MENST - Andy van der Meyde
CF - ROMEYDA - Ronaldo (Corinthians)
OMF - BOHREN - Zvonimir Boban
DMF - EFERVOLTZ - Stefan Effenberg
OMF - JARILLE - Juninho Pernambucano (Al-Gharafa Sports Club)
DMF - PARL SALSA - Paulo Sousa
ST - SARTERIC - Dejan Savićević
OMF - HANUE - Gheorghe Hagi
OMF - VERDONAN - Carlos Valderrama
OMF - MIL LANDELEF - Michael Laudrup
ST - SIMANE - Giuseppe Signori
CF - SKORIMILOV - Hristo Stoichkov
CMF - MALVELA - Enzo Maresca (Olympiacos)
OMF - LATEPIE - Russell Latapy
SB - DELACREZ - Ulises de la Cruz (Liga Deportiva Universitaria de Quito)
CF - VALTEL - Darius Vassell (Ankaragücü)
CB - ANDRAZELO - Jorge Andrade
CF - HUNO SAMETZ - Hugo Sánche
OMF - FROEQUERTOLI - Enzo Francescoli
SMF - ORONDOR - David Odonkor (Real Betis)
CMF - BALCON- Joey Barton (Newcastle United)
CB - COLOZZENI - Fabricio Coloccini (Newcastle United)
SMF - LUI GARINA - Luis Javier García (Racing Santander)
ST - ELLA - Edu
DMF - COLLANI - Eugenio Corini
CB - HULKO - Robert Huth (Stoke City)
OMF - ROMIRA - Alessandro Rosina (FC Zenit St. Petersburg)
ST - SELIMI GALCIRA - Sergio García (Real Betis)
CF - RIK OIDERA - Ricardo Oliveira (Al-Jazira Club)
GK - REYKINCE - Michael Rensing (Bayern Munchen)
SB - SCHTEILER - Marcel Schäfer (Wolfsburg)
CF - LANDROAM - Brian Laudrup
CF - RONA KIRA - Roger Milla75
CF - RORO BIATHA - Rolando Bianchi (Torino)
ST - DEROM - Ashkan Dejagah (Wolfsburg)
ST - G.FULLMANTEZ - Gastón Fernández (UANL Tigres)
CB - SIRTAYNER - Steven Taylor (Newcastle United)
CF - GUTIMACCI - Grafite (Wolfsburg)
CF - CARLS ROYCE - Carlos Ruiz
OMF - RADATOZ - Guillermo Ramírez (C.S.D. Municipal)
CB - BASIBELOY - Felipe Baloy (C.F. Monterrey)
CF - BLEN PIEF - Blas Pérez (Al Wasl FC)
CB - SIEKAK - Jan Šimůnek (Wolfsburg)
SM - GECHSTER - Christian Gentner (Wolfsburg)
SB - JOEL EQUATER - José Enrique (Newcastle United)
CF - ALDEROS - Afonso Alves ( Al-Sadd Sports Club)
OMF - HELTRAS - Hernanes (Sao Paulo)
ST - MARGAZVEZ - Mágico González
CF - DORZATE -Leonel Duarte (FC Ciego de Ávila)
CF - NELSOR - Neymar (Santos)
CF - KEMALSON - Keirrison (Benfica)
CF - DELRINHO - Dentinho (Corinthians)
ST - DEFLAZCO - Damián Lizio (Córdoba CF)
OMF - QUEZAROLLA - Eliseo Quintanilla (Ermis Aradippou)
ST - NOIMEIT - Fabrice Noel (Puerto Rico Islanders)

(some of them will be changed after Konami release the second update )

Classic England
GK - 1 - David Seaman
CB - 5 - Tony Adams
CB - 6 - Gareth Southgate
CB - 18 - Martin Keown
SB - 2 - Stuart Pearce
CMF - 4 - Paul Ince
CMF - 23 - Dennis Wise
SMF - 11 - Steve McManaman
OMF - 8 - Paul Gascoigne
CF - 21 - Ian Wright
CF - 9 - Alan Shearer
GK - 13 - Nigel Martyn
SB - 3 - Graeme Le Saux
CMF - 17 - Jamie Redknapp
CMF - 7 - Darren Anderton
OMF - 16 - Glenn Hoddle
OMF - 12 - David Platt
OMF - 15 - Paul Merson
ST - 10 - Teddy Sheringham
WG - 14 - John Barnes
WG - 22 - Chris Waddle
CF - 19 - Les Ferdinand
CF - 20 - Andrew Cole


Classic France
GK - 16 - Fabien Barthez
CB - 8 - Marcel Desailly
CB - 5 - Laurent Blanc
CB - 15 - Lilian Thuram
SB - 3 - Bixente Lizarazu
DMF - 7 - Didier Deschamps
DMF - 19 - Christian Karembeu
DMF - 17 - Emmanuel Petit
OMF - 10 - Zinedine Zidane
OMF - 6 - Youri Djorkaeff
CF - 9 - Stéphane Guivarc'h
GK - 1 - Bernard Lama
CB - 18 - Frank Leboeuf
SB - 2 - Jocelyn Angloma
SB - 4 - Manuel Amoros
DMF - 14 - Alain Boghossian
WB - 11 - Vincent Candela
CMF - 12 - Vincent Guérin
SMF - 13 - David Ginola
OMF - 20 - Johan Micoud
CF - 21 - Christophe Dugarry
CF - 22 - Jean-Pierre Papin
CF - 23 - Eric Cantona


Classic Germany
GK - 12 - Oliver Kahn
CB - 4 - Jürgen Kohler
OMF - 8 - Lothar Matthäus
CB - 2 - Jens Nowotny
CB - 5 - Matthias Sammer
DMF - 13 - Jens Jeremies
DMF - 19 - Stefan Reuter
SB - 15 - Christian Ziege
OMF - 23 - Sebastian Deisler
OMF - 7 - Andreas Möller
CF - 9 - Oliver Bierhoff
GK - 1 - Andreas Köpke
GK - 22 - Bodo Illgner
CB - 14 - Guido Buchwald
CB - 17 - Thomas Linke
CB - 16 - Thomas Helmer
SB - 3 - Jörg Heinrich
WB - 6 - Andreas Brehme
SMF - 20 - Bernd Schneider
OMF - 10 - Thomas Häessler
WG - 11 - Pierre Littbarski
CF - 18 - Jürgen Klinsmann
CF - 21 - Rudi Völler


Classic Italy
GK - 1 - Gianluca Pagliuca
CB - 6 - Franco Baresi
CB - 4 - Alessandro Costacurta
SB - 9 - Mauro Tassotti
CB - 3 - Paolo Maldini
DMF - 13 - Dino Baggio
DMF - 11 - Demetrio Albertini
SMF - 14 - Nicola Berti
WG - 16 - Roberto Donadoni
ST - 10 - Roberto Baggio
CF - 18 - Gianluca Vialli
GK - 12 - Angelo Peruzzi
CB - 8 - Luigi Di Biagio
CB - 2 - Giuseppe Bergomi
CB - 5 - Ciro Ferrara
SB - 23 - Antonio Benarrivo
WB - 7 - Angelo Di Livio
CMF - 15 - Roberto Di Matteo
ST - 20 - Roberto Mancini
ST - 21 - Gianfranco Zola
CF - 17 - Vincenzo Montella
CF - 19 - Daniele Massaro
CF - 22 - Pierluigi Casiraghi


Classic Holland
GK - 1 - Ed de Goeij
CB - 21 - Jaap Stam
CB - 2 - Frank de Boer
SB - 18 - Michael Reiziger
CMF - 12 - Phillip Cocu
CMF - 20 - Aron Winter
CMF - 6 - Edgar Davids
ST - 10 - Dennis Bergkamp
OMF - 7 - Ronald de Boer
WG - 17 - Marc Overmars
CF - 19 - Patrick Kluivert
GK - 13 - Hans van Breukelen
SW - 4 - Ronald Koeman
SW - 15 - Danny Blind
SB - 16 - Arthur Numan
DMF - 5 - Richard Witschge
DMF - 3 - Frank Rijkaard
OMF - 9 - Ruud Gullit
CF - 11 - Marco van Basten
CF - 14 - Peter van Vossen
CF - 22 - Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
CF - 23 - Pierre van Hooijdonk


Classic Argentina
GK - 1 - Carlos Roa
CB - 6 - Oscar Ruggeri
SW - 4 - Néstor Sensini
DMF - 15 - Matías Almeyda
DMF - 14 - Diego Simeone
DMF - 5 - Fernando Redondo
SMF - 20 - Gustavo López
WG - 7 - Claudio Caniggia
CF - 19 - Abel Balbo
CF - 9 - Gabriel Batistuta
GK - 12 - Germán Burgos
GK - 21 - Roberto Bonano
CB - 23 - Nelson Vivas
CB - 13 - Mauricio Pochettino
SB - 16 - José Luis Cuciuffo
DMF - 2 - Sergio Batista
DMF - 22 - Gabriel Calderón
OMF - 8 - Jorge Burruchaga
OMF - 17 - Héctor Enrique
ST - 10 - Diego Maradona
CF - 11 - Jorge Valdano
CF - 18 - Ramón Díaz


Classic Brazil
GK - 1 - Taffarel
CB - 4 - Julio César
CB - 3 - Ricardo Rocha
SB - 2 - Jorginho
OMF - 16 - Leonardo
DMF - 5 - Mauro Silva
DMF - 8 - Dunga
OMF - 10 - Raí
OMF - 9 - Zinho
ST - 7 - Bebeto
CF - 11 - Romário
GK - 12 - Leão
CB - 20 - Aldair
CB - 6 - Zago
SB - 22 - Cafu
DMF - 15 - Flavio Conceiçao
DMF - 14 - César Sampaio
OMF - 13 - Djalminha
ST - 21 - Edmundo
WG - 18 - Viola
CF - 17 - Careca
CF - 19 - Müller
CF - 12 - Élber

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due to license issues no Pele,Cruyff,Zico..etc like the last PES so feel free to adjust some name and faces to those legends

[Incognito]

Gio seriously mate, you have to get out more.

[Beast]

Gio seriously mate, you have to get out more.

:lol::lol: i haven't play more then 6 games till now it's from the PES fan website thought it could be helpful for some members who unlocked it

[Edward]

Interesting Gio - so you only unlock those winning either a master league or international trophy?

Also Be a legend on PES is better than Be a pro on Fifa.

For one reason only. On Fifa you can ask for the ball - whatever position you are in say you are a striker and in a full back position and you'd get the ball, or not depending where the opposition is. So it fucks up the system. But on PES you cannot ask for the ball so you must be in your position - I am a striker - and you will receive the ball if you are in the correct position and made your run properly.

[Beast]

When u go home pick Gallery from the front menu page..
go to track record (it has all your games/wins..etc ) move with R1 button and you will see the trophies and what is required to unlock them

[Incognito]

I didn't know you could ask for the ball. No wonder it was doing my head in.

[ChuckaOwns]

LOL!

[Edward]

Depends what you prefer, I like it on PES where you have to make the run and be in position to get the pass rather than asking for it and ruining the tactics etc.

[kozhell]

I think the longer you are at a club(and the better you are), the more your teammates will pass to you, even if you don't ask for the ball.

[Esteve]

I didn't know you could ask for the ball. No wonder it was doing my head in.

:lol:

I'm terrible at that mode. I gave up quickly. Also, no Cruyff, Beast? Gayness.

[Beast]

Well the lovely thing about PES is everything is editable , plenty of cruyff face around the fan sites change Witchege (or whatever ) to Cruyff load the fact adjust the entire stats through this

http://pesstatsdatabase.com/

and you are good to go ;)

[Beast]

Well i don't know where to put this , but i can give an proper assessment of PES vs FIFA

Well overall there is an improvement of the menu and still it's much more user friendly than FIFA or rather less complicated much less complicated.

so lets get started :
In terms of teams available:
FIFA wins hands down on club level while PES kick the shit out FIFA on the national level .
How FIFA missed teams like Serbia,Chile,Bosnia ,Egypt,Ivory coast,Ghana..etc is still beyond me
once again PES has the edge of the classic teams and classic players buying Pep or Hierro or forming a team of ex liga players with Romario-Laudrup-Hierro,Lucho ..etc remains a big turn on for an old fart like me or even (going to the editing part ) playing vs them as i normally create several teams instead of craps from the other league , like La Liga historical team , Serie A historical team ..etc or replace dead wood classic players with great ones like taking an Argentinian from Argentina classic and alter his looks, stats,name to Di Stefano,Passerella,Fillol,Ardilis ..etc

game modes :
PES wins , you can easily play a league, WC , copa America,Euro with considerable ease and the game selection is piss easy and user friendly , while u have to go a long process in creating a world cup even between 2 friends who want to play a world cup semi final (2 vs 2 ) .
the manager mode in FIFA is still a big abstract lots of not needed stuff , i tried the game with the kids TV (29 inch non HD ) and i couldn't read a damn thing !!! u need a big screen 37 inch + and preferable HD to read anything in the menu .
the game feels very very very long especially if u want to finish a season there isn't much difference than last year version , PES has improved the Master league (most popular game mode ) significantly which i will describe below :

the main problem this year is that u can't mix & match leagues .. i used to have 5 teams from each league and setup the 4 divisions , but due to license problems it's now more fixed u can't pick teams from Ligue 1 , EPL, Serie A , la liga,Dutch league..etc in one master league setup
u pick 4 leagues and automatically they block the option to pick any teams from the other 2 -3 leagues for example i couldn't pick Lyon or Ajax in the master league setup due to my choice of playing with Serie A , Liga,EPL and others
u can also decrease the level of the matches played (18 instead of 20 ) u can also determine how the league is won , head to head /goals scored/goal difference..etc
it's a big let down to see L'OM , Lyon,Ajax outside the setup
first u have 3 sponsors who give u money and conditional with certain achievements if u fail to meet them (5 losses would cancel the contract ..etc) , u have fan groups (season tickets ) i was given 250 Million Euro to spend on the club in the beginning of the season
the season no longer start with a game but a transfer period before u'r last game , now u can upgrade your staff ( u have youth manager, scout who do the negotiation for u IF u want , fitness coach,stadium manager , team doctor ) all play a significant part of your level on & off the pitch .
you also have youth team players (what used to be Master league default players in the old system ) , the training is immense u can use a focus option for example for one million Euro and a period of 8 weeks (8 games ) i gave drenthe the skill of going behind the defense ) , Granero to dribble in one on one.. those items u used to edit in the old series u can now give to your players by paying from your budget .. excellent option .

Negotiation is great, your scout file a dossier on the player u want which explain his statues and how much he value or don't value your club .. negotiations sometimes takes up to 3-4 weeks i managed to sign Ribery & Suarez for realistic prices (26 Million & 18 million respectively )

there is several new options cause unlike the last Master league u are now a manager in the Wenger/SAF like
in short this is another area where PES won with a landslide but lack of mix & match remains a major let down for me .

Game play:
I'll handed to FIFA they exceeded everything , i was reluctant between both games as PES has also improved but definitely not on the level EA has reached , the players on the pitch seems more natural then PES although PES has taken a big leap compared to 09 (and i did mention before that i played PES 09 while i had the FIFA and it felt like a stupid robotic game in comparison i switched off after the second game ) but EA still feels in a league of their own however since most people already got FIFA i'll say what's in PES
scoring goals in PES feels a lot better , when u score away suddenly the stadium turn from noisy to quiet and players reaction to scoring is better .
the 360 movement is better in PES but the skills available (although mostly impossible to do during a game ) on EA is wider and better .
shooting and crossing is an area where PES won and by default headers however the keepers in PES still have their Dida 60 seconds of fame , the defense has improved and the AI is smarter .
speaking of AI i have mentioned this in M&C i was playing with Brazil in the WC final vs England.. i went 1-0 down in the first half after 30 minutes while Robinho was raping England right back over & over again and in the 42 minute of the first half the AI changed the RB to Lescott and took Downing for Barry and i couldn't pass by Lescott anymore and lost the game with Barry solid display in the midfield ..
that's AI in my book not change when you are down 2-0 (like EA did this year and before and PES always done ) but rectifying a mistake early on and holding out in a WC final the same way we would see in Real life yet FIFA experience feels better in terms of players movement , reflexes and smartness without such tactical genius displays .

Graphics :
Player faces and bodies will scream from your TV in PES i posted before Rooney face unfucking believable he is so real it scares you but Stadiums is a big big let down in PES . some stadiums have so much sun and brightness u struggle to see the players (if u play with teams like England or Argentina ) or the ball (if it's white ) the pitch in most stadiums are seriously need a brush of green
Stadiums and the pitch in FIFA is awesome really awesome while players faces is seriously bad in comparison

editing:
it's becoming an addiction to PES players , to create / alter /get real life faces and make the players /kits/teams the game miss , moreover this year they allow other teams B to be in the master league so PES fans are creating the entire german league and already option files for the entire game include the latest transfers/kits are already in websites some of them started to put german teams already in some option files websites like pesfan and other provide u a great source of completing the game i already have an option file with all the EPL teams,Liga teams and other teams or do what i explained in teams review , FIFA virtually have no editing and much more complicated it's like they just give u whatever the game designer was working on with almost no editing option but do u need one when the game is license wise complete ? the answer is no but i would have take out New Zealand for example and turn them to Serbia just minor thing but could matter for some.

Formation:
PES is still much easier to use and much more user friendly despite their attempts to copy FIFA menu's still it's considerably easier and understandable compared to FIFA

live season :
awesome option for EA nothing like it in PES but it's still a big disappointment that they decided to charge people this year for it (instead of last year one free league update all year ) but it's a let down that it doesn't work till now .. always try again later when u try to download the live season

online gaming :
not of any interest for me, i like to compete with friends sitting together , the defeat live impression on the face of a friend worth thousand online experience

overall it's hard to say which is better , as a gameplay FIFA wins it for me despite the problems in crossing/heading and to some extent shooting feels awkward but the movement of the players as a group in a team is superior
i definitely will still play both although winning a tournament that open up a classical team or group of players ( i finished forming Bayern Munich squad from classical players and adding some who are found in the International squads like Toni,Ribery ,Robben..etc )
if we give FIFA a 9/10 PES would be 8/10 or 8.5 / 10 behind but not far off both need some minor tweaks

[Moe]

havent played any of them yet but it looks like a wonderful review from u beast.. good job mate

[Cule Angles]

Fair play to you Gio that seems a very honest review and it sounds as though having both wouldn't be a bad option at all, would you agree with that?

[Beast]

Well i would say yes and wait for the EA & Konami update to see what parts of the games will be fixed.
i noticed headers are a bit better after the latest EA update and Konami are preparing one , if u prefer to wait till i feedback what will the game be like after the update i'll be happy to report it

[Cule Angles]

Yeah I'll hold my horses until the end of next month when I'll be in England and games are cheaper there than in Spain.

[gvt2000]

Yeah I'll hold my horses until the end of next month when I'll be in England and games are cheaper there than in Spain.

http://www.gamestracker.com/

Shipping takes about a week but you get games for half the price here (in spain). Never pay for overpriced spanish games again.

[Cule Angles]

Thanks GVT!

[Edward]

Gio have you tried the be a pro on fifa and be a legend on PES yet?

[Beast]

Here is the most complete option file made to date for those interested

http://rapidshare.com/files/299394789/Hanzino_PES10_OF_UK.rar

^^^ don't know if that's legal for the forum remove it mods if it's deemed breaching copy rights or anything

It includes:

All Premiership Emblems, Kits, Transfers, Squad Numbers done
All Unlicensed La Liga Emblems, Kits done
All MAJOR transfers completed - some squad numbers done
All Fake teams corrected
All National fake double players replaced with ingame real players
All Classic Teams & Hidden Players Unlocked
All Classic & Hidden Players Fake Names Changed To Real Names


Now, you MUST copy the system data & edit data in order for the classic players to be unlocked & named correctly, just copy everything

for those who are new like Eddie..
1- download it
2- unzip/use win rare to unlock it
3- inside the folder u unzipped you will find a folder called PS3, copy it as it is to a USB stick and put it in your PS3 USB spot.
4- from the PS3 screen go to saved data , you will see your USB name , open it and start copying it to your PS3 (that include system data file & edit date file along with all the kits

Gio have you tried the be a pro on fifa and be a legend on PES yet?

not yet on PES that's why i excluded it from my comparison

[yusuf]

for those who are new like Eddie.. :lol:

[Aasim]

Quality review Gio. I've only played the demos for both but i'm a PES fan since the days of ISS and i'm never going to move to Fifa.

What i liked about PES is the tactic cards. I played the overlaping run card with Alves and he was playing like in real life. Very good idea because in 09, Alves at RB would just stand there and harly pass the half way line. I didn't want to move him up to a right wing back because then he wuld be classed as a midfielder and wouldn't mark the LW.

Game play has improved a lot on PES10.



Also thanks for the option file Beast, appreciate it.

[Beast]

One important note guys, this option file works only for the UK version (Sadly ) .. so check your copies before installing it (u can still use the kits but the unlockable teams only work with system data file so it won't work for me or people with European versions or North america.. stupid konami

[IrvDizzle]

great review, Gio. Thanks very much for doing this. :beer2: Looks like I'll be getting FIFA in April and then we'll go through this entire debate again next year. Only next time, I'll just keep my mouth shut and wait for Gio to give us the 411.

[gvt2000]

great review, Gio. Thanks very much for doing this. :beer2: Looks like I'll be getting FIFA in April and then we'll go through this entire debate again next year. Only next time, I'll just keep my mouth shut and wait for Gio to give us the 411.

Why exactly are you waiting till april again?

[Fourteen]

Because he's a d-bag.

Nice review Gio, I agree with pretty much all of it apart from the stadiums. They look fine, the detail around the sides is very good and in stadiums such as the San Siro and the Bernacow, you can see that the pitch and the stands are positioned at the correct distances from each other compared with Fifa, were alot of pitches are lacking any feel of atmosphere.

Got a new game going with Porto;

Helton
Gabi Milito
Bruno Alves
Fucile
Sapunaru
Manuel Fernandes
Raul Meireles
Guarin
Varela
Hulk
Diego Milito

Just beat, Barca 2-0, I wish I could put the goals on the internet to show you, they look so realistic and everything about this game is so fun and addictive to play. I'd reccomend it to anyone 100%.

[Beast]

Because he's a d-bag.

Nice review Gio, I agree with pretty much all of it apart from the stadiums. They look fine, the detail around the sides is very good and in stadiums such as the San Siro and the Bernacow, you can see that the pitch and the stands are positioned at the correct distances from each other compared with Fifa, were alot of pitches are lacking any feel of atmosphere.

Got a new game going with Porto;

Helton
Gabi Milito
Bruno Alves
Fucile
Sapunaru
Manuel Fernandes
Raul Meireles
Guarin
Varela
Hulk
Diego Milito

Just beat, Barca 2-0, I wish I could put the goals on the internet to show you, they look so realistic and everything about this game is so fun and addictive to play. I'd reccomend it to anyone 100%.

You need to play FIFA Jordan seriously cause there is no contest in terms of stadium NO contest at all
.. my final test was 3 hours go
went to a friend which we usually kick each other butt 2 teams vs 2 teams in cup format (Konami cup ) and suddenly we discovered Konami canceled the Konami cup and instead use the community format for what in short turn out to be an exhibition match only 1 teams vs the other nothing more no 4 or 8 teams ..etc .. the difference is they will keep the stats in their records!!! wtf ..
the game was piss easy , goals scored were very very easy 2 headers from crosses and i ran with Kaka through 4 English defenders..
we immediately switched to FIFA and enjoyed a great cup with Argies vs Spain and Brazil vs England ..
i'm seriously thinking of selling my version tbh or lets say if received a good offer i will sell it without regret Jordan .
and you know i've defended them but this fun & games with friends is important and Konami shot themselves in the foot.
if the update won't do so major changes (and definitely include taking out the region block for option files ) i'll continue with FIFA cause it's seriously better

[Edward]

Yeah I've been playing in the master league. I bought Hazard and D'Alessandro!

Played 9 league games won 7 drew 2 and in the quarters of the cup. I have Barca and Benfica in the CL groups! beat Barca 6-0 in nou camp with Torres getting 4 goals!! But Barca had some weird crap team out. Pedro in goal Guddy playing no Xavi no Ibra no Pique. So I slammed home that advantage with Torres taking the piss out of Puyol!.

[kozhell]

What is a good buy in ML(of course I'm looking for a young(but not that bad) player who would develop fast)? Any recommendations?

[Fourteen]

Santon on loan.

[Edward]

The Scout does the work for you really. It is really specific on what you want your scout to look for too.

[The Fallen]

Just got it now, absolutely love it already. Started out on regular difficulty since I'd have to get used to it but I was up 3-1 halfway through the 2nd half so I'm going to go up to professional now.

[Beast]

have to correct i was wrong last night , the community option does allow u to setup a cup i just didn't see it ..

[The Fallen]

Is it me or are defenders reflexes in the box a lot better than the last PES?

[Edward]

Did not play the last PES but definitely defenders AI is very good.

[Beast]

Is it me or are defenders reflexes in the box a lot better than the last PES?

the last PES in comparison with this one or FIFA is total crap

[Edward]

I also notice in the master league that you have to play weaker sides occasionally like in the cup of CL to keep players happy rather than your first XI all of the time. It is more realistic in the sense of managing your resources whilst on fifa you can play your first XI all the time.

[The Fallen]

Yeah this PES is clearly way superior, you can see that after playing one match. I never played with the analog stick in previous football games so I have to learn more than having to adjust to this PES. :lol:

[Aasim]

I ordered it. I can't wait till it comes!! I hope it's today but with this royal mail crap, you can't be certain.

To those who have got it, how are the goalkeepers? In the last one, the worst keepers made wonder saves and the good ones used to do some stupid shizz...

Yeah this PES is clearly way superior, you can see that after playing one match. I never played with the analog stick in previous football games so I have to learn more than having to adjust to this PES. :lol:

can't you play with the "d" pad?

[Edward]

Yes you can, but the stick is much better.

[The Fallen]

With the d-pad it's just 8 directions like the old PES from what I've seen, if you can control the whole 360 degree thing with it then it's really poor, you gotta use the analog. It's worth it anyway.

[Beast]

Keepers are still shit .. as soon as i find a great Option file i'm going to push up the keepers a lot at least by 5-7 points and 4 up for the defense and a regular 10 to the stamina of every single player

[The Fallen]

Man the defenders are so much better at covering for eachother, I always manage to beat one guy but then another player comes sweeping across. Awesome. :D

Keepers still make ridiculous howlers though.

[Aasim]

:sad: It hasn't come today.

I just want to curl up in the fetal position and just die.


How different is the deom to the real thing?

[IrvDizzle]

Why exactly are you waiting till april again?

Because he's a d-bag.

no, Starsky ... it's because between activities, sports, Uncharted 1 and 2, God of War 1 2 and 3, Assassin's Creed II, and hopefully Gran Turismo, I won't have the time to play this game until then.

Yes you can, but the stick is much better.

that's what she said.

:sad: It hasn't come today.

I just want to curl up in the fetal position and just die.

can you get banned first?

[Aasim]

If i get banned, how will you know i'm dead? Obviously when i die i'm gonna tell you guys here..

[Valon]

Is the PC version good? Or you guys are commenting only for PS3 version?

[The Fallen]

The PC version is the same as the console ones when it comes to PES.

Man there isn't enough fouls in this game, I get my players slaughtered by the opposition and there's rarely ever a free kick. The defending of the CPU in the box is amazing, I can barely get a shot off half the time.

The lack of fouls is actually pissing me off, so many times have I been in the middle of the shot, get slide tackled with the defender not getting the ball and the match just keeps going on?

[Valon]

The PC version is the same as the console ones when it comes to PES.

Man there isn't enough fouls in this game, I get my players slaughtered by the opposition and there's rarely ever a free kick. The defending of the CPU in the box is amazing, I can barely get a shot off half the time.

The lack of fouls is actually pissing me off, so many times have I been in the middle of the shot, get slide tackled with the defender not getting the ball and the match just keeps going on?

That's good. PES 2009 sucked for PS2 and I stopped playing. Was thinking of buying it today for PC, PES2010 but I didn't know if it's the same quality as in PS3.

[The Fallen]

PES for the PC is always the same as the console ones, which is why I play PES. FIFA don't bother anymore so I have a simple choice when it comes to my football game. :D

[Beast]

hehehe someone pointed out to the forum in one of the PES fan websites

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=73863

[evilhita666]

Hmmm, I'm still on the fence about this one... The keepers are terrible and most of the time there's no build up in the goals, they seem to come out of nowhere... I'll have to play more...